flagging at wythe

[rock7578]

ok this is not to blame anyone or nothing derogatory in anyway but the flagging at wythe really was bad last night.maybe the flagman needs raido help with the number of rigs coming in, but in turn 1 and 2 there were very many late yellows.and explain to me why the 12 crate late got put in the back trying to avoid another car . the yellow was thrown after he was in turn 1.fred and crew usually does a great job but maybe there is some issues that need to be addressed.i apprecate all they do and they have a tuff job but these late yellows are gonna get a driver hurt may god forbid that from happening.and i really think they should be a deputy walk the stands from time to time as 2 weeks in a row there has been drunks and drinking in the stands.and lets look at making this a smoke free track or at least let the smokers sit at the top where the smoke won't blow back in the kids and non smokers face.and again thanks to fred and crew and all the drivers and car owners for good shows week to week. thanks from a fan trying to help

[sas066]

I have often wondered the same thing rock, but after watching some of the cautions last night, I kinda see why the yellow seems to come out long after a crash or spin out has happened. It seems he is watching the temporarily disabled car to see if he/she can get it back out there without throwing the
yellow therefore not having an unnecessary delay. However, maybe sometimes he does need to be a little quicker on the draw when you can clearly see the car is in trouble.

[rock7578]

i see your point sas there were alot in the crate race seems to me tho many were brought out by the same car maybe the old 3 caution rule should be put back in effect. or maybe even lower the field by qulifying and taking the top 15???

[sas066]

Yeah, I like the idea of the 3 caution rule also. And I agree that it seems like
the same car is the one that brings the cautions out the most. It gets old after awhile seeing the same car spinning in circles. Maybe they need a little
more practice or something, or maybe their car needs some adjustments. Whatever the reason, three strikes you're out, I would think.

[Dwayne]

Whatever the reason, three strikes you're out, I would think.

I agree

[drtlmfan]

The call on Umberger in the crate race was wrong. I'll agree on that. The only other things they might need to do is place a spotter in turns 1&2 to watch for spins and someone to watch the end of pit road to keep cars from coming back out after 3 spins. As for holding the flag a little long, in most cases, it was in lower divisions with slower cars and the flagman was on top of it. I would suggest that they start checking coolers in the stands though. For the price, it's GREAT family entertainment, but I don't want my kids around a bunch of drunks either.

[Dwayne]

I would suggest that they start checking coolers in the stands though. For the price, it's GREAT family entertainment, but I don't want my kids around a bunch of drunks either.

Is there a non-alcohol and alcohol section?

[rock7578]

RJ the whole track is supposed to be alcohal free i think an announcement should be made to that effect . i really think spotters are a good idea in the crate and super races .ok it was a wrong call will they make it right with the 12 car? i hope so.

[Dwayne]

RJ the whole track is supposed to be alcohal free i think an announcement should be made to that effect . i really think spotters are a good idea in the crate and super races .ok it was a wrong call will they make it right with the 12 car? i hope so.

Ok was not aware of that.

[alvint]

At the track that I work at, we have people at different places around the track and in the tower with track radios. When we see the need for a caution, all we have to do is say caution a few times on the radio and the flagman will throw the caution. We do not have to say where on the track the caution is at. Our track is non-alcohol in the stands and in the Race Team area of the pits. We have a section in the pits that we call the Bull Pin that is roped off from the Race Team area where that alcohol is allowed. People using this area are not allowed to take their alcohol past the ropes. Last year, they did stop anyone from bringing any alcohol in because some jerks threw some bottles onto the backstretch. I see nothing wrong with drinking a brew from time to time, but I would never drink one in a non-alcoholic atmosphere or where that they are not supposed to be. With the high number of cars showing up at Wythe, I doubt that they have the room to rope off a scetion like this. People that use this area also have to pay for a pit pass to access it.

[tim wadd]

Ive been going to wythe raceway for years and Honestly I can tell you whats wrong with the flagging!! The flagmans a puppet ,Don can't throw a caution until he has the ok from up in the booth from the race director. Its always been that way!! Don is a great man. You know its not his fault its the same man that makes all of the calls from the booth. But to be fair could you or I see all that goes on in any one race all the time??:smiley_691:

[OX_29]

From what i have seen the flagman is not the problem. In the stand he can not see real well. But the problem is that they know of this problem and will not do anything about it. What i would do is have someone stand up on the hill in turn one with a radio. But also he does seem to see if u can spin back around and get going. Which is a good thing i think.
Will someone explain what happend with 12 car. I was not able to see it.

[Fastburn]

One word: Raceceiver

Before the flagman has time to reach for the flag [which the driver may or may not be looking for at that particular moment] the Raceceiver track spotter is telling each driver "Slow car on front straight off Turn Four" or "Wreck in Turn Two .... Caution light is on" etc. Thanks to Raceceivers, waving the flag is as much for the benefit of the race fans as it used to be for the drivers.