what was travis hairs problem [Archive]

motorman

07-09-2008, 07:31 PM

they said he was driving a jeep and he was on something they said he was trying to cross the track and the security guard tryed to stop him and he wouldnt stop and he drug the security guard half way across the track they said he was driving like a wildman everybody was trying to stop him but he got away :16Evil: has anybody heard what they did with him did the police catch him

motorman

07-09-2008, 07:49 PM

i bet mike pittman is proud of his driver

barbecueboy

07-09-2008, 09:42 PM

what do you say that hasnt been said....for his sake(if its all true)I hope he gets the help he needs...ive seen him at his best on the track .....hope he can take ownership of what he has done(again if its all true)and be a stand up guy ...the first step is for him to realize there is a problem...this weekends activities are sounding like screams for help to me!!!Thank god no one got seriously hurt.....THIS TIME...

ladyracer29

07-09-2008, 10:16 PM

maybe mr. Hair is trying to be "Hurricane Hair" on the track but cant because the real "Hurricane" (Hank Edwards) is in his way so he takes it out by acting out off the track. Sorry that was so blunt I really hope he gets the help he NEEDS!!!!!

motorman

07-09-2008, 10:28 PM

i think drugs and drinking rehab would really be a good thing he use to be a hell of a driver but its catchinh up with him hes not the same so sorry

w1ck3d0n3l0st

07-09-2008, 10:48 PM

sad to hear he is that messed up and the track is still letting him race.

motorman

07-09-2008, 11:02 PM

they might not after last weekend we will wait an see i cant believe there letting him in a car i thought mike pittman was different i know that dan the iceman was trying to get a ride with him and i know for a fact he dont drink or do drugs i wish he would have given him a chance i dont know what happend to that deal dan was real excited

Racerchaser

07-09-2008, 11:06 PM

If truly, it is the person mentioned, an incident like this, has more history then just last Saturday night. Again as everyone, my opinion is that this puts a huge dark cloud over his whole driving career.
How long has this lack of good judgment,on his part has been gong on.
Saturday night was definitely a prime example of that at the cost of a man and his child.
It's also jeopardize his whole driving career around the southeast Carolina tracks. Now if anything happens (on the track) there will be more questions then anyone could ever answer, if he can even get a ride. Every track owner/promoter is going to give him the 5th degree when he walks on the property.
But lets us not forget one thing, this is not the wild,wild west where we hung them before the trial. I am not saying he is innocent, by no way, but until due process of the law his not guilty either and in the same token I am not taking sides.

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JMO

barbecueboy

07-10-2008, 12:17 AM

if Truly, It Is The Person Mentioned, An Incident Like This, Has More History Then Just Last Saturday Night. Again As Everyone, My Opinion Is That This Puts A Huge Dark Cloud Over His Whole Driving Career.
How Long Has This Lack Of Good Judgment,on His Part Has Been Gong On.
Saturday Night Was Definitely A Prime Example Of That At The Cost Of A Man And His Child.
It's Also Jeopardize His Whole Driving Career Around The Southeast Carolina Tracks. Now If Anything Happens (on The Track) There Will Be More Questions Then Anyone Could Ever Answer, If He Can Even Get A Ride. Every Track Owner/promoter Is Going To Give Him The 5th Degree When He Walks On The Property.
But Lets Us Not Forget One Thing, This Is Not The Wild,wild West Where We Hung Them Before The Trial. I Am Not Saying He Is Innocent, By No Way, But Until Due Process Of The Law His Not Guilty Either And In The Same Token I Am Not Taking Sides.

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jmo 100% Correct In What Your Saying...he Deserves A Fair Shake,but It Dont Look Good,but Hey Oj Was Innocent Too And Look At How He Has Made Such A Great Turnaround ...oh Wait....no Matter The Case ,he Has Talent And I Hope For His Sake He Continues To Get To Use It On The Track And Doesnt Leave Himself Hangin On The Outside Lookin In...

#30fordracing

07-10-2008, 09:23 AM

dang what stuff can do to u!

Aunt_Pendy

07-10-2008, 11:24 AM

I spoke with Larry Norris yesterday and mentioned to him all the discussion on the forum regarding last weekend's incident. He asked that I please let everyone know that there are folks down in the pits who are watching drivers to insure that no one drives on the track under the influence of any substance. You may not notice them down there, but they are there, and if any driver is found to be impaired they will not participate in the race.

drtfan

07-10-2008, 11:31 AM

Ya well, as you can tell whoever those people are that are supposed to be "watching" aren't doing to good of a job.

w1ck3d0n3l0st

07-10-2008, 12:22 PM

maybe he is drinkin or smokin after the race ?

Aunt_Pendy

07-10-2008, 12:36 PM

JAM11

07-10-2008, 01:39 PM

People In The Pits Watching----that's Funny!!!! Really What It Is, Is Pathetic. Greed Puts Blinders On People.

vdog01

07-10-2008, 05:50 PM

my question is who was he hanging with?? they say birds of a feather flock together...or something to that affect...travis was parked in front of the same guy that was doing donuts in the pits after OWM race....

like i said in a previous post..randomly pick 2 drivers in each class every week and subject them to a mandatory breathalizer in the shoot before there race, couldn't take that long too do...you would probably see a few guys calm down on the racetrack...

jmo

Aunt_Pendy

07-10-2008, 06:19 PM

A cop I work with said it only takes 5-10 seconds to perform a breathalyzer test. Why not test them all? That way no can say drivers are being aloud to race drunk. Just a thought.....

motorman

07-10-2008, 07:10 PM

maybe he is drinkin or smokin after the race ?
that one is funny:blue7:

motorman

07-10-2008, 07:20 PM

ok who is going to take care of the problem the police or fms hes already got a warrant for his arrest the prolem should be delt with right away before somebody gets seriously injured this is very bad a hit and run on a car then on a man with his baby he should be banned from all tracks forever the one guy he hangs out with is the guy thats got all the tatoos on him hes got a owm he races sometimes its black i am not sure of the number i think its number 9

motorman

07-10-2008, 07:27 PM

i am pretty sure rodney rich and mike pittman are done with him i wish mike would give dan the iceman a call and give him a chance hes straight up guy no drinking no drugs and he works on the car would love to see him out there goodluck dan

gb81racing

07-10-2008, 07:48 PM

idk much about this situation btwn travis and the cars he drives but i would love to drive for someone if they have an opening in one of there cars.....and i dont drink or smoke and i will help as much as i can on the car.

07-10-2008, 07:58 PM

vdog01

07-10-2008, 08:19 PM

i hear ya greg..i think we'd all like that chance....and an important lesson to be learned, if you have a car and get a ride with someone, keep your car. i sold all my stuff to drive for someone on asphalt and here i am a year later, still saving the money to get something, but it won't be long now..lol..

HOTROD

07-10-2008, 08:30 PM

Okay...again from Larry Norris....

Travis was not racing this past weekend. Yes, he went into the pits, but he was not in the pits as a driver. If you read my previous post, it stated the folks in the pits were looking for drivers who were impaired, not spectators.

I'm not defending anyone who drives drunk. They should all be locked up. I'm just letting folks know what Larry stated about drivers being watched. I agree with that. Travis was there as a spectator NOT AS A DRIVER. But what he done is wrong and needs to be taken care of but dont accuse all drivers for what he done as a spectator NOT A DRIVER. He was not in a racecar or raced this past weekend. Hope the best for him He is a Good Driver.

barbecueboy

07-10-2008, 08:45 PM

ok Who Is Going To Take Care Of The Problem The Police Or Fms Hes Already Got A Warrant For His Arrest The Prolem Should Be Delt With Right Away Before Somebody Gets Seriously Injured This Is Very Bad A Hit And Run On A Car Then On A Man With His Baby He Should Be Banned From All Tracks Forever The One Guy He Hangs Out With Is The Guy Thats Got All The Tatoos On Him Hes Got A Owm He Races Sometimes Its Black I Am Not Sure Of The Number I Think Its Number 9
The 9 Was The One Doin The Donuts In The Pits Wasnt It???now Its All Startin To Make Sense...

barbecueboy

07-10-2008, 08:56 PM

okay...again From Larry Norris....

Travis Was Not Racing This Past Weekend. Yes, He Went Into The Pits, But He Was Not In The Pits As A Driver. If You Read My Previous Post, It Stated The Folks In The Pits Were Looking For drivers Who Were Impaired, Not Spectators.

I'm Not Defending Anyone Who Drives Drunk. They Should All Be Locked Up. I'm Just Letting Folks Know What Larry Stated About drivers Being Watched.
Why Hide Em ,let Everyone Know What They Are Doing...the Racers Can Pretty Much Police Themselves(at Least The Ones Who Respect The Sport)cause Theres Nothing To Police Really As Far As The Drinking Goes...its The Handful That Are Incapable Of Functioning Any Other Way Than Drunk....have Them Guys That Are Watching Be Upfront About It And Walk Through The Pits Openly Doing The Breathalyzer At Random...would Make A Pretty Good Statement About The Tracks Commitment To Saftey And Zero Alcohol Tolerance Behind The Wheel Of A Race Car....i Personally Think That The Percentege Of Drivers To Worry About Is Miniscule ,but At The Speeds And Power Some Of These Guys Produce It Only Takes That Miniscule Mistake And Youve Got Some Dead People On The Race Track!!!

ADD A DOLLAR OR TWO TO THE TICKET PRICE OR ENTRY FEE AND YOU COULD PAY FOR A PORTABLE BREATHALYZER IN PROBABLY ONE RACE....JMO

enduro78racer

07-10-2008, 09:02 PM

hey greg Im pretty sure mike would love to here from you we see you drive every week come over and talk to us im pretty sure after all this hell be looking for a driver

gb81racing

07-10-2008, 09:21 PM

hey greg Im pretty sure mike would love to here from you we see you drive every week come over and talk to us im pretty sure after all this hell be looking for a driver

well i would ove to have the opportunity....i dont really know mike but i have talked to him a cpl times and have been to the shop where they used to keep the owm last yr.

motorman

07-11-2008, 01:18 AM

i know gregg has his own car but if mike is good for his word danny talked to him at the first of the year and he said there was a couple of drivers in front of him and danny told me he said if if they didnt work out that he would give him a chance and we know that gregg was not one of them now we willsee if mikes word is any good danny was real excited

motorman

07-11-2008, 01:21 AM

:rippedhand:i know gregg has his own car but if mike is good for his word danny talked to him at the first of the year and he said there was a couple of drivers in front of him and danny told me he said if if they didnt work out that he would give him a chance and we know that gregg was not one of them now we willsee if mikes word is any good danny was real excited

Aunt_Pendy

07-11-2008, 07:50 AM

Why Hide Em ,let Everyone Know What They Are Doing...the Racers Can Pretty Much Police Themselves(at Least The Ones Who Respect The Sport)cause Theres Nothing To Police Really As Far As The Drinking Goes...its The Handful That Are Incapable Of Functioning Any Other Way Than Drunk....have Them Guys That Are Watching Be Upfront About It And Walk Through The Pits Openly Doing The Breathalyzer At Random...would Make A Pretty Good Statement About The Tracks Commitment To Saftey And Zero Alcohol Tolerance Behind The Wheel Of A Race Car....i Personally Think That The Percentege Of Drivers To Worry About Is Miniscule ,but At The Speeds And Power Some Of These Guys Produce It Only Takes That Miniscule Mistake And Youve Got Some Dead People On The Race Track!!!

ADD A DOLLAR OR TWO TO THE TICKET PRICE OR ENTRY FEE AND YOU COULD PAY FOR A PORTABLE BREATHALYZER IN PROBABLY ONE RACE....JMO

I don't really think they are hidden. I haven't seen this issue pop up before so no one has ever really questioned if anyone is checking on the drivers. I know several of the drivers and know they would never participate in a race if they had been drinking, smoking, snorting, shooting, or whatever. It appears perhaps the problem lies with spectators, not drivers. So here's my question...

If you go to a bar and get rip-roaring drunk and then leave, isn't there some law that holds that bar responsible to a certain extint for continuing to serve alcohol to someone who has had way too many drinks? If that's correct, would FMS be held responsible if someone left drunk?

JRhodes

07-11-2008, 08:24 AM

I know every bar I've been to sets their own limits. When the bar tender feels you've had enough, they stop serving you. At the track, you bring your own beverages in. So you're responsible for yourself. The tracks not responsilbe.

JAM11

07-11-2008, 08:52 AM

Correct Me If I'm Wrong, But Don't The Rules On The Fms Website State No Alcohol In The Infield Area? Or Is That Just One Of Those Tentative Rules?

RaceJunkie

07-11-2008, 09:38 AM

Correct Me If I'm Wrong, But Don't The Rules On The Fms Website State No Alcohol In The Infield Area? Or Is That Just One Of Those Tentative Rules?
1. Disorderly conduct, profanity, and fighting will not be tolerated at the speedway.
2. Alcoholic beverages and illegal drugs are strictly prohibited in the infield area. Law enforcement personnel will escort any person breaking this rule off the premises. No money (entry or admission) will be refunded.
3. Track management reserves the right to inspect all vehicles entering the infield.

Wilder4Racin

07-11-2008, 10:33 AM

I don't really think they are hidden. I haven't seen this issue pop up before so no one has ever really questioned if anyone is checking on the drivers. I know several of the drivers and know they would never participate in a race if they had been drinking, smoking, snorting, shooting, or whatever. It appears perhaps the problem lies with spectators, not drivers. So here's my question...

If you go to a bar and get rip-roaring drunk and then leave, isn't there some law that holds that bar responsible to a certain extint for continuing to serve alcohol to someone who has had way too many drinks? If that's correct, would FMS be held responsible if someone left drunk?

Being a bar owner before, I can shed some light on this ... that is true. If I let a patron sit in there and get ripped from the floor up , he/she leaves, and kills someone, they can first impose a major fine on me, take my liquor license, and close me down. The family of the decease can (and should) sue me for all they can get. There is many laws in serving a person and how much he/she can consume.

Racerchaser

07-11-2008, 10:47 AM

If you go to a bar and get rip-roaring drunk and then leave, isn't there some law that holds that bar responsible to a certain extint for continuing to serve alcohol to someone who has had way too many drinks? If that's correct, would FMS be held responsible if someone left drunk?[/quote]

DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THAT ONE, I'm SORRY BUT THATS COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES. GRANTED ALCOHOL IS INVOLVED IN BOTH CASES, BUT 1 IS A BAR AND 1 IS A RACE TRACK.

I GOT TO GO ALONG WITH JASON ON THIS;
I know every bar I've been to sets their own limits. When the bar tender feels you've had enough, they stop serving you. At the track, you bring your own beverages in. So you're responsible for yourself. The tracks not responsible.
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jhofficial

07-11-2008, 11:10 AM

If you go to a bar and get rip-roaring drunk and then leave, isn't there some law that holds that bar responsible to a certain extint for continuing to serve alcohol to someone who has had way too many drinks? If that's correct, would FMS be held responsible if someone left drunk?

DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THAT ONE, I'm SORRY BUT THATS COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES. GRANTED ALCOHOL IS INVOLVED IN BOTH CASES, BUT 1 IS A BAR AND 1 IS A RACE TRACK.

I GOT TO GO ALONG WITH JASON ON THIS;
I know every bar I've been to sets their own limits. When the bar tender feels you've had enough, they stop serving you. At the track, you bring your own beverages in. So you're responsible for yourself. The tracks not responsible.
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They along with lots of tracks sell beer as well.

Aunt_Pendy

07-11-2008, 11:30 AM

If you go to a bar and get rip-roaring drunk and then leave, isn't there some law that holds that bar responsible to a certain extint for continuing to serve alcohol to someone who has had way too many drinks? If that's correct, would FMS be held responsible if someone left drunk?

DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND THAT ONE, I'm SORRY BUT THATS COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES. GRANTED ALCOHOL IS INVOLVED IN BOTH CASES, BUT 1 IS A BAR AND 1 IS A RACE TRACK.

I GOT TO GO ALONG WITH JASON ON THIS;
I know every bar I've been to sets their own limits. When the bar tender feels you've had enough, they stop serving you. At the track, you bring your own beverages in. So you're responsible for yourself. The tracks not responsible.
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Apples and Oranges are both fruits...a bar and a race track are both public places...both sell beer. Sound alike to me.

modman

07-11-2008, 12:37 PM

w1ck3d0n3l0st

07-11-2008, 12:40 PM

a bar you go into more and likely with the thought of gettin drunk before the night is over. you go to a race track to hang out and watch a race if you get drunk thats a plus., maybe in the pits i could see them being responsible since no beer is allowed in the pits and he was in the pits drinkin.

JRhodes

07-11-2008, 12:41 PM

Okay, so are you going to sue Food Lion for selling beer? People buy beer all the time from there, drive drunk, and hit people.

BEAR

07-11-2008, 12:41 PM

perhaps rodney rich should give aqnother driver a shot he has top notch equiment do not know the ice man but one driver that comes to mind is andy floyd driver of g 23 owm he has come along way as a driver and will always give 100percent
yea andy is a good driver but hes already in owm i think he should give sumbody like greg a chance 2 see what he could do jmo:american_salute:

JAM11

07-11-2008, 01:07 PM

Are Fms Races Aired In Michigan? How Would Someone In Michigan Know What Happens Down Here? Contrary To Popular Belief The Track Owners Do Not Walk On Water!!!!!

jhofficial

07-11-2008, 01:13 PM

Okay, so are you going to sue Food Lion for selling beer? People buy beer all the time from there, drive drunk, and hit people.

Come on Jason we all know or have seen the news were an establishment has continued to serve alcohol to a customer who was impaired and that person has went and caused harm to himself are someone else and that has led to the establishment being sued and yes they have been held responsible.

JRhodes

07-11-2008, 01:25 PM

Come on Jason we all know or have seen the news were an establishment has continued to serve alcohol to a customer who was impaired and that person has went and caused harm to himself are someone else and that has led to the establishment being sued and yes they have been held responsible.

It's simple. Each person is responsible for his/her own actions. And no Flip, the devil didn't make you do it. There is no need to hold this against the track. Now if the track sits back and does nothing about the situation, then that's when you blame the track.

jhofficial

07-11-2008, 01:33 PM

It's simple. Each person is responsible for his/her own actions. And no Flip, the devil didn't make you do it. There is no need to hold this against the track. Now if the track sits back and does nothing about the situation, then that's when you blame the track.

Weather if I agree with that statement or not is irrelevant. That is not the world we live in today.

JRhodes

07-11-2008, 01:55 PM

Weather if I agree with that statement or not is irrelevant. That is not the world we live in today.

Sad, but very true John.

modman

07-11-2008, 05:59 PM

i was not talking about driving the 66 car in owm i was talking about driving rodneys number 27 slm another driver that comes to mind is dj tydall driver of the 4 car in latemodel he is a good driver that gets the most out of what he has takes care of his car too

DJR

07-12-2008, 12:15 AM

I agree with Modman I would like to see DJ in a slm it would not take him long before he would put it in victory lane!!!!!!!!

RaceJunkie

07-12-2008, 12:53 AM

Okay, so are you going to sue Food Lion for selling beer? People buy beer all the time from there, drive drunk, and hit people.
You are not consuming it on the property though.

jeffsmithfan

07-12-2008, 07:05 AM

he should give the ride to Jimmy Edwards jr

JRhodes

07-12-2008, 08:03 AM

You are not consuming it on the property though.

That's the way I was looking at it too, Dwayne. Everyone was talking about holding Fayetteville liable for selling the beer. If beer is not sold in the pit area, how could they be responsbile?

w1ck3d0n3l0st

07-12-2008, 10:32 AM

jhofficial

07-12-2008, 12:29 PM

That's the way I was looking at it too, Dwayne. Everyone was talking about holding Fayetteville liable for selling the beer. If beer is not sold in the pit area, how could they be responsbile?

How hard is it to walk across to the grandstands? Everytime I go I go back and forth from the pits to the stands and most times drink a beer or two.

Switchback29A1

07-13-2008, 10:11 AM

Everyone keeps making examples of who's responsible for what. I don't know how many people were at fayetteville sunday afternoon, but easily a few thousand right? Now i'm sure travis wasn't the only drunk one on the property, but he was the only one that got behind the wheel and started running over people and cars. Travis is an adult and i thought adults were supposed to know the difference between right and wrong. He chose to drink however many "alcholic beverages" and he chose to climb behind the wheel. The only person responsible for what travis hair did this past weekend is travis hair! Not fayetteville speedway.

JRhodes

07-13-2008, 01:13 PM

The only person responsible for what travis hair did this past weekend is travis hair! Not fayetteville speedway.

Thank you!

Aunt_Pendy

07-13-2008, 01:37 PM

Are Fms Races Aired In Michigan? How Would Someone In Michigan Know What Happens Down Here? Contrary To Popular Belief The Track Owners Do Not Walk On Water!!!!!

No Jam, the FMS race is not aired in Michigan, but they have this wonderful invention called the telephone and the internet. I can read this forum and figure out what the heck happend at each race. If I don't know, I can call my nephew who races at FMS or I can call Larry Norris. When you want information you go to the top. AND I did go to FMS quite often when I lived in NC and have attend races there since I've moved to Michigan. It's amazing...they have this other invention called an airplane. You can actually fly from one city to another and what do you know....the Fayetteville Airport is just a few miles away from FMS.

Until you know how much I travel between Michigan and NC don't you dare ask how I know what happens down there. It's not the 1800's anymore and we don't rely on the Pony Express.

Any more snotty asked questions? I'm sure I can give you a snotty answer.

Racerchaser

07-13-2008, 01:44 PM

Are Fms Races Aired In Michigan? How Would Someone In Michigan Know What Happens Down Here? Contrary To Popular Belief The Track Owners Do Not Walk On Water!!!!!

DUH !!!!!

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