May 10th Sportsman/May 24th LIMITED LATE MODELS

[RWP]

May 10th will be clarys last true sportsman race. That class will be converted to a LIMITED LATE MODEL class. The fist Limited Late Model race will be May 24th. Rules for this class will be posted by Friday May 2nd.The date's we will run this new class are as follows

May 24th
June 7th
July 5th
July 19th
Aug 2nd
Aug 30th
Sep 13th

[cprince07]

COOL!! Now we can come run when CLR is closed! It would be nice if we could run our Thunder & Lightning cars too but they are illegal by Clary's rule book.

[CHansen]

COOL!! Now we can come run when CLR is closed! It would be nice if we could run our Thunder & Lightning cars too but they are illegal by Clary's rule book.

Call and talk to Jonathan I gave him the dates that you guys were not running, they may try to work you in a class accoriding to your rule book with some weight adders????? (Like the BRICK"GRASS"Nationals")

[Redclay Rebel]

Well Charlie you told me at FMS that you thought they would start running limiteds at Clarys before the season was over and they are...did you have inside knowledge or something?

[Marcia Reed]

COOL!! Now we can come run when CLR is closed! It would be nice if we could run our Thunder & Lightning cars too but they are illegal by Clary's rule book.

We'd love to have ya'll when CLR is off Chris, I know there is a clause in the general rules about cars from other tracks and possibly adding weight to allow them to run.....Best of luck to ya'll this weekend!

[JRhodes]

Hell yeah, that's one more reason to go to Clary's.

[DOCCALLAHAN]

what are the rules gonna be for this class?

[CHansen]

what are the rules gonna be for this class?

Dont hold me to the fire, but I believe they will be very similar to County Line, Dublin, and FMS.............


But we shall see!!!!:thumb:

[CHansen]

Well Charlie you told me at FMS that you thought they would start running limiteds at Clarys before the season was over and they are...did you have inside knowledge or something?

Who me??????? For sure you know I am the last to know anything.:kenny:

[RWP]

2008 CLARYS LIMITED LATE MODEL RULES

If you are points racing at another track you will be able to run by that tracks rules in this class. Body rules will follow UDTRA specs. Chassis and suspension will follow UDTRA specs. Follow UDTRA guidelines unless otherwise noted.

ENGINE COMBINATIONS
G.M. 604 CRATE ENGINE
2100 pounds with the driver after the race.
Maximum 12" spoiler allowed.

Up to 365 C.I.
1. Factory production steel block or Bowtie block allowed.
2. Any crankshaft and rods. Any flat top pistons, no dome top pistons.
3. Any 23 degree steel heads, no porting or polishing. May angle mill the heads
and alter the valve pocket. Heads may be port matched 1/2" on the intake side
only. Maximum three angle valve job.
4. Maximum valve sizes : 2.08" intake and 1.625" exhaust.
5. Any intake, no porting or polishing. May port match the intake runners 1/2"
maximum. May debur.
6. Any flat tappet cam, no mushroom lifters. Roller rocker arms permitted. Shaft
rockers allowed. Rocker stud may be pinned or screw-in type, with push rod
guide plate and stud girdles. May use poly locks or stock nuts.
7. Wet sump oil system must be used.
8. Any header.
9. Any bowl type carburetor.
10. 2200 pounds with the driver after the race. Leaf spring cars min. weight 2100 lbs.
11. Maximum 8" spoiler allowed.
12. Open tire rule. Maximum 11 X 92 or 29.0 X 11.0 tire. 14" rim maximum.

WEIGHT PENALTIES
50 pounds for dry sump oil system.
50 pounds for roller cam.
50 pounds for ported and polished heads and intake.

[2dumb2kwit]

Any word on what the payout will be, for the LLM class?
(I had to ask. I have a LLM, that I race on friday nights!)

[KMB63]

I'm Getting A Lot Off Call From Down South About This Class,thanks For Posting The Rules,any Info About Purse Will Help. I Think This Is Gonna Be Good.

[LOU_01]

since this class is taking the sportsmans spot is it goin to pay the same purse as the sportsman? i think its a great idea and know of three cars right now who would come from the richmond area and possibly more, maybe even a couple from southern maryland.

[clracer]

2100 pounds???? can you really get a crate car that lite?

[ThaHornet]

Not hardly, supers have trouble getting that lite.

[clracer]

then how are you spose to get a aluminium head steel block crate motor to 2100 pounds? not to much of a advantage there

[Marcia Reed]

Any word on what the payout will be, for the LLM class?
(I had to ask. I have a LLM, that I race on friday nights!)

since this class is taking the sportsmans spot is it goin to pay the same purse as the sportsman? i think its a great idea and know of three cars right now who would come from the richmond area and possibly more, maybe even a couple from southern maryland.

I was told they are working on the purse for this class this week, I'm sure we'l see a payout by weeks end or the first of next week......

[Marcia Reed]

then how are you spose to get a aluminium head steel block crate motor to 2100 pounds? not to much of a advantage there

don't know, maybe someone from CLR can answer that one since the rules are the same as CLR.....

[clracer]

thats why im runnin at fayetteville. cant run against open motors. not a good enough advantage being the same weight aas the rest.

[ThaHornet]

Fayetteville

Option 1)
604 aluminum head crate motor Weight 2250lbs with Maximum 8 inch Spoiler

Option 2)
Minimum weight 2400lbs with a Maximum 8 inch spoiler.

[LOU_01]

u could get by with a crate motor maybe at a slick track, but clarys which seems to have alot of traction, i think you would be at a disadvantage even if you could get down to 2000 lbs. just my 2 cents.

[clracer]

by the rules for the guys running crate motors like myself have an advantage with the weight but there is no way of getting the car down to 2100 pounds. so thats an advantage that i cant take advantage of

[13dFAN]

Our late model weighs 2300 lbs with the driver, no weight, and only 20 gallons of fuel! There's no way they'll get down to 2100 lbs unless the driver weighs about 75 lbs. :18lol:

[cprince07]

Our late model weighs 2300 lbs with the driver, no weight, and only 20 gallons of fuel! There's no way they'll get down to 2100 lbs unless the driver weighs about 75 lbs. :18lol:

Thats right. The weight for the crate cars should be 2300 and go up from there depending on what the cars have for engine combo with a max of 2500. FMS a few years ago had a weight rule of 2500 for limited,not sure what it is now.

[Marcia Reed]

we weigh in at 2369 with driver, 20 gals of fuel and 50 lbs of weight.....

[cprince07]

We weigh in at 2420 with driver,25 gallons of fuel.
Marcia, i was not trying to single out Clary's rules or CLR's. I was just saying there is no real advantage to running a crate because most can not get down to the 2100 ibs.

[CHansen]

We weigh in at 2420 with driver,25 gallons of fuel.
Marcia, i was not trying to single out Clary's rules or CLR's. I was just saying there is no real advantage to running a crate because most can not get down to the 2100 ibs.

ONE HUGE ADVANTAGE WOULD BE $5000.00 vs.........$10,000.00-$20,000.

[Marcia Reed]

We weigh in at 2420 with driver,25 gallons of fuel.
Marcia, i was not trying to single out Clary's rules or CLR's. I was just saying there is no real advantage to running a crate because most can not get down to the 2100 ibs.

I know you weren't Chris, I was just saying what we weigh in at and you know JC is a big boy so it can be done but it is not the normal.......

[CHansen]

we weigh in at 2369 with driver, 20 gals of fuel and 50 lbs of weight.....

This car very well could be close to 2100.........:animal48: JC is not a small fellow and 50lbs of weight and could get by with 10-15 gallons of fuel........

[cprince07]

This car very well could be close to 2100.........:animal48: JC is not a small fellow and 50lbs of weight and could get by with 10-15 gallons of fuel........

Our driver(Britches Liles) is a big boy too.LOL! Hell so am i for that matter. I was just saying MOST teams could not get down to the 2100. There is always an exception.

[13dFAN]

we weigh in at 2369 with driver, 20 gals of fuel and 50 lbs of weight.....

Last night we scaled ours....it was 2364 lol

Our steel block car weighs over 2550 already, because we have to add weight to get it to scale out right!

[13dFAN]

Most all aluminum block cars weigh 2100 with no driver!

[KMB63]

we weigh in at 2369 with driver, 20 gals of fuel and 50 lbs of weight..... KEEP IN MIND THE WT.DIFFERANCE BETWEEN AN ALL ALUM. ENGINE AND A ALL STEEL ENGINE,I'VE ALWAYS SAID THE SAME AS THESE GUY'S HEAVY ENGINE+MORE REAR WT.FOR % = HEAVY CAR:check_flag:

[Marcia Reed]

KEEP IN MIND THE WT.DIFFERANCE BETWEEN AN ALL ALUM. ENGINE AND A ALL STEEL ENGINE,I'VE ALWAYS SAID THE SAME AS THESE GUY'S HEAVY ENGINE+MORE REAR WT.FOR % = HEAVY CAR:check_flag:

Keeping that in mind, my comment was more for someone who had said in another conversation you couldn't get a lm or SLM much below 2300 and this was just an opportunity for me to put it out there that it is possible......

[JRhodes]

Ask Scott Bloomquist how to get one lighter......he's been known to be light a time or many.

[Marcia Reed]

I didnt start all this BS. :Elvis_NBS: I had no part of it.:Doh: You know what I mean :rant:

yeah, I know but remember the little comment you made to me and Jeff last night in the other thrad....LOL

and Back to topic, I don't understand the 2100 pound thing either, but oh well......

[jhofficial]

yeah, I know but remember the little comment you made to me and Jeff last night in the other thrad....LOL

and Back to topic, I don't understand the 2100 pound thing either, but oh well......

I remember But as for the topic I have no comprehension of 2100 pounds I have enough problems with my 225 :88nd:

[KMB63]

,really hoping that was a one time deal on the front stretch......
ME TOO ,SAFER BARRIER GOT HIM...LOL

[RaceJunkie]

moved 31 posts to the BS thread, Keep on topic or I'll close it.

[Marcia Reed]

moved 31 posts to the BS thread, Keep on topic or I'll close it.

Since the only necessary thing is about the llm class, I'll close it now and any questions can be asked in a new thread