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wesvids
03-20-2008, 09:28 PM
" No Outside Coolers
No Outside Food or Beverages
In Grandstands "
:wings_angry:WTF???:wings_angry:
jhofficial
03-20-2008, 09:30 PM
" No Outside Coolers
No Outside Food or Beverages
In Grandstands "
:wings_angry:WTF???:wings_angry:
Were have you been? This has been beat to death for months. :07Sucks:
Yet it go!!!!!!!!!!! :Yell:
wesvids
03-20-2008, 09:40 PM
Sorry man, I have been kind of of out of touch with the racing world for the last few months. It caught my attention on the radio this afternoon. And then I looked at the website and saw it. WOW! I don't keep up with racing as much as some of you guys do in the off-season. I'll search the archives for some commentary.
RaceJunkie
03-20-2008, 11:15 PM
Here you go.
http://www.localracechat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32377
NOWEAKLINKS
03-23-2008, 07:20 AM
CAN YOU BELEAVE THAT ! NO COOLERS ! I have been going to " FMS " FOR 40 YEARS ,, And never heard such " B S " . Sounds like someone is thinking more about there pockets than any of the Fans.. Well I hope no one shows up.. DOES ANYONE NO WHAT THEY CHARGE FOR A BEER at Fay,, Haa Haa I,ll see ever one at another Track this year..
Lucky13
03-23-2008, 09:18 AM
" Haa Haa I,ll see ever one at another Track this year.."[/quote]
Not me! I'll be at FMS, cooler or no cooler.
RaceJunkie
03-23-2008, 09:35 AM
CAN YOU BELEAVE THAT ! NO COOLERS ! I have been going to " FMS " FOR 40 YEARS ,, And never heard such " B S " . Sounds like someone is thinking more about there pockets than any of the Fans.. Well I hope no one shows up.. DOES ANYONE NO WHAT THEY CHARGE FOR A BEER at Fay,, Haa Haa I,ll see ever one at another Track this year..
Sad, Sad, Sad, been supporting a track for 40yrs and bail out because you can't take a cooler in. :11Cry:
Tell me how FMS is thinking about their pockets? Is it because they have the best schedule of any track in this area? Because they have tripled the points purse? How do you think that they are suppose to do all they have set forth out to do without some kind of expense or sacrifice to the fans? I was their last night, went in the pits and still did not take a cooler. $1.00 for a drink, $2.00 for a Bologna Burger. Heck I even ate before I went and still bought something to eat. With reasonable prices like they have in place the no cooler policy is really a MUTE argument at this point.
L8models
03-23-2008, 01:07 PM
I spent $5.00 dollars at the concession stand last night, and had a damn ball.
Racerchaser
03-23-2008, 01:11 PM
MAN, THEY ARE SOME VERY REASONABLE PRICES, IN FACT, JUST A LITTLE UNDER MOST TRACKS. BUT VOLUME MAKES UP FOR A CHEAPER PRICES ALSO.
:john_burger: :john_burger: :john_burger: :feedme: :icon_drinking: :icon_drinking::icon_drinking:
jhofficial
03-23-2008, 01:24 PM
This shouldn't even be a issue. It is what it is and its the wave of the future. Some just cant handle change!!! I think it will be the norm at all tracks real soon.
Californiakid5
03-23-2008, 01:27 PM
HAHA FMS is the place to be Ed laid it out for everybody at the drivers meeting about expences but i tell you what my Dads Bolonga sandwich is bangin
wesvids
03-23-2008, 03:22 PM
I wasn't able to make it last night. How much was beer? I think it was $2 for 12oz and $3 for 16oz last year.
NOWEAKLINKS
03-23-2008, 07:31 PM
Listen coolers have been part of the Sport ever sence Raceing started , Its nice when you and your Babydoll can carry in a few Drinks that you like and snacks thats she will only eat, And most of you no its true, Takeing coolers from the Race Track is like takeing Hot dogs from a Baseball Game Now think about it ?
jhofficial
03-23-2008, 07:35 PM
Listen coolers have been part of the Sport ever sence Raceing started , Its nice when you and your Babydoll can carry in a few Drinks that you like and snacks thats she will only eat, And most of you no its true, Takeing coolers from the Race Track is like takeing Hot dogs from a Baseball Game Now think about it ?
Yeah but you pay for the hot dogs at the baseball game. So you proven my point. So get over it, tracks that allow coolers are a dying breed.
featherdeer
03-23-2008, 08:59 PM
u are exactly right jhofficial. forget your roots and the budget man ala nascar. i can only make one race a weekend. thank you dublin for letting me carry my cooler.
NOWEAKLINKS
03-23-2008, 09:16 PM
Hey featherdeer ! Maybe I,ll see ya in the pits at " Dublin " next weekend .. With my Cooler ! And about 15 of my Buddys, Hotdogs , Pork chops, on the grill, Can you smell your way ? lol lol
johnnyvrod
03-23-2008, 09:25 PM
Having No Coolers At Fms Is Like Taking A Knife From A Red Neck, No Rime Or Reason. Let People Come And Relax Enjoy Themselves, Instead Of Ruining What They Like.
featherdeer
03-23-2008, 09:26 PM
thank you this is what racing should be.
johnnyvrod
03-23-2008, 09:28 PM
Don,t Forget Your Roots, Keep Going Nascar Ways And Watch Your Fan Count.
featherdeer
03-23-2008, 09:35 PM
noweaklinks what can i bring besides my cooler.
StumpyA1
03-23-2008, 09:53 PM
WHAT the track is talking about they are broke an in need of help look at the profit they made at the lucas race last year an they are haveing it again this year an the world of outlaws too u tell me who is makeing the money
enduro78racer
03-23-2008, 10:32 PM
so instead of saying no coolers why cant the track ask an extra 5-7 dollars if you bring in your cooler then its an option and people will stop the whinning .....if you want a cooler you pay more if you are gonna buy from the track you get a lowered price make us feel like we have a choice and we wont cry so much were free people we want choices not rules:rant::rant::rant:but ill be there either way hi noweaklinks c you at dublin LOL
Here's an idea. Find a plot of land. Build yourself a track. Run it the way you want to.
featherdeer
03-23-2008, 10:54 PM
dublin has already done that.
RaceJunkie
03-23-2008, 10:59 PM
were free people we want choices not rules but ill be there either way
Rules are a part of life, you live everyday by a set of rules. Weather you obey them or not is up to you.
featherdeer
03-23-2008, 11:56 PM
again you are exactly right. see you at dublin.
Dirtchaser
03-24-2008, 06:25 AM
Just to let you know JH . Take County Line they are not a dying breed . You can care in your food, drinks, beer, etc. They are still open and have been for many years while all these other tracks we know must have been the loser in the end CLOSED.There are many wcs, fms, clarys,to name a few that can,t stay open long at a time.
NOWEAKLINKS
03-24-2008, 06:18 PM
You know what ? I'll bet you anything you want to bet, that the only small group on here that dont want coolers brought in, Are workers at the track or Kin ? I understand you disagree and you are ' FIRED " next to Kin, Dis owned.. Hey and everone thought the last Guy that Run the Track was trying to get Rich.. ? Come on Ed you can work something out.. I have talked to Ed before his a good man,, Lets all speak to Ed at the Race Saturday night, Maybe he will work something out..
Lucky13
03-24-2008, 06:28 PM
You know what ? I'll bet you anything you want to bet, that the only small group on here that dont want coolers brought in, Are workers at the track or Kin ? I understand you disagree and you are ' FIRED " next to Kin, Dis owned.. Hey and everone thought the last Guy that Run the Track was trying to get Rich.. ? Come on Ed you can work something out.. I have talked to Ed before his a good man,, Lets all speak to Ed at the Race Saturday night, Maybe he will work something out..
Well I'll bet you cause Im not kin to none down there and I dont work for them. I really dont care if they allow coolers or not. I get there early enough to have all the beer and food I want in the parking lot. Then when I go in, guess what..... I BUY beer and food just to support the track. I still want to bet you though, lets say $100. Its up to you.
NOWEAKLINKS
03-24-2008, 07:10 PM
Ahhhhh ... Ant that sweet .. I support the track to, I buy beer and Hotdogs Bar-B-Q sandwich and anything eles. But Dude you no well as I do, Come on , Cant walk in with "ANTHING" What will be next ? Let me guess ! NO T SHIRTS OR JEANS.. I GOT IT ! NO HATS...
NOWEAKLINKS
03-24-2008, 07:27 PM
Just to let you know JH . Take County Line they are not a dying breed . You can care in your food, drinks, beer, etc. They are still open and have been for many years while all these other tracks we know must have been the loser in the end CLOSED.There are many wcs, fms, clarys,to name a few that can,t stay open long at a time.
Hey you are right ! I always have a good time at ' County line " you never here about all these changes there .
Lucky13
03-24-2008, 08:03 PM
Ahhhhh ... Ant that sweet .. I support the track to, I buy beer and Hotdogs Bar-B-Q sandwich and anything eles. But Dude you no well as I do, Come on , Cant walk in with "ANTHING" What will be next ? Let me guess ! NO T SHIRTS OR JEANS.. I GOT IT ! NO HATS...
Well whats the problem then? If you are buying all that stuff wtf do you need to carry in. Maybe I need to show you a few ways to get stuff in at the track. I have been to a few tracks that dont allow coolers (Eldora, 34 Raceway and a couple of others) and they have been like this for many years. Its starting to happen just about everywhere, you might as well get used to it. Would you like some cheese with your whine?
wesvids
03-24-2008, 08:38 PM
All I can say is that the Crazy 8 cannot be considered a Premium Event(see SLM RACE paying $2500). I could understand having the Cooler Policy for the Lucas and WoO Events and maybe the Clash Finale but week in and week out it should be BYOB. FMS is not putting on the Lucas and WoO every week. Nor are they running the World 100 or THE DREAM anytime soon(FMS is Not ELDORA) And I also understand that businesses may have to do what they have to do to stay afloat. Just as fans may have to do what they have to do to keep their head above water. Everyone is feeling the effects of higher prices on everything. Heck, the cost just to get to the track of your choice is more than it was in past years with or without a Cooler full of cold ones.
wpack
03-24-2008, 09:02 PM
I agree wesvids, the tracks are starting to sound like they're ran by Nascar or the gov't, are they trying to keep families away from the track ?
Racerchaser
03-24-2008, 09:34 PM
Well the way I look at, you got 2 choices.
#1 Stay home and set up your cooler and chair and sit there and do your thing. :MODhappyjaz:
#2 Come on out to the track and join other fun loving race fans for a night of racing enjoyment without your cooler :check_flag: :racecar: :check_flag:
pretty simple, you know its not rocket science :Doh::DontKnow: :laying20laughing: :laying20laughing:
Racerchaser
03-24-2008, 09:38 PM
I agree wesvids, the tracks are starting to sound like they're ran by Nascar or the gov't, are they trying to keep families away from the track ?
NASCAR allows cooler but, all other things (food,drink and other concessions) at a track are bid on by different vendors and not NASCAR or TRACK.
wesvids
03-24-2008, 10:15 PM
Well the way I look at, you got 2 choices.
#1 Stay home and set up your cooler and chair and sit there and do your thing. :MODhappyjaz:
#2 Come on out to the track and join other fun loving race fans for a night of racing enjoyment without your cooler :check_flag: :racecar: :check_flag:
pretty simple, you know its not rocket science :Doh::DontKnow: :laying20laughing: :laying20laughing:
Option #1 is beginning to look a lot better and may become the "Wave of the Future" when all Budgeted "FUN" Money has been exhausted considering there is a "Dying Breed" of People that actually have money to Pay the Bills much less a night out on the Town.:icon_drinking:
RaceJunkie
03-24-2008, 10:25 PM
Option #1 is beginning to look a lot better and may become the "Wave of the Future" when all Budgeted "FUN" Money has been exhausted considering there is a "Dying Breed" of People that actually have money to Pay the Bills much less a night out on the Town.:icon_drinking:
So your basically saying without taking your cooler to the race you can't afford to go? How much food does one actually need to eat while their at the race?
So what else will you do for entertainment, Sit at the house? That's no fun.:check_flag2:
wesvids
03-24-2008, 10:59 PM
So your basically saying without taking your cooler to the race you can't afford to go? How much food does one actually need to eat while their at the race?
So what else will you do for entertainment, Sit at the house? That's no fun.:check_flag2:
You are missing the point if you think its all about a Cooler full of beer or liquor or sandwiches or drinks/water or whatever. The cooler policy is just another example of things costing more no different than the price of anything else going up.
Now RJ you may not be one to pack a cooler before you go to a race so therefore it will not affect you. But for those who have been accustomed to packing a cooler for themselves and/or wife , kids, etc. their pocket is gonna take a hit whether it costs a few bucks more or 20 bucks more to depend on the track concession stand to supply those same goods. It's gonna cost more, plain and simple.
What I am getting at is I read the newspaper and websites all the time talking about record numbers of bankruptcies, foreclosures, prices of gas, default credit cards, prices at the grocery store---the list goes on and on.
It's not like this region is exempt from all that. But like i said, the track may have to do what they have to do to survive. And sooner or later people may have to do what they have to do to survive even if it means sitting at the house and not having fun.
The Money just aint gonna be there sooner or later dude for some people if the price of stuff continues to cost more and more.
I don't wish any bad luck on FMS or anybody else, I'm just Saying.
battenfan4life
03-24-2008, 11:12 PM
this is my take on the situation at hand!!!!
whats the difference in buying the stuff to pack ur cooler with to take to the track and all u have to do is buy stuff at the track, it ain't going to be that much higher at the track. thnats the way i see it.
RaceJunkie
03-24-2008, 11:20 PM
whats the difference in buying the stuff to pack ur cooler with to take to the track and all u have to do is buy stuff at the track, it ain't going to be that much higher at the track. thnats the way i see it.
Exactly!!! :05Cool:
gb81racing
03-24-2008, 11:25 PM
this is my take on the situation at hand!!!!
whats the difference in buying the stuff to pack ur cooler with to take to the track and all u have to do is buy stuff at the track, it ain't going to be that much higher at the track. thnats the way i see it.
if one hot dog is $2 at the track...a family can buy a pack of hotdogs for around $2 and feed them all. it adds up alot more $ if you buy it at the track
RaceJunkie
03-24-2008, 11:28 PM
Greg how many hot dogs does a Family take to the movies?
gb81racing
03-24-2008, 11:32 PM
Greg how many hot dogs does a Family take to the movies?
RJ how many times have you been to the movies and it cost you $15 a person and how many times have you been to the movies and sat there 5-6 hrs also. A movie is 1.5 hrs a race is half a day or so.
battenfan4life
03-24-2008, 11:35 PM
Exactly!!! :05Cool:
i actualy thought nobopdy was going to agree with me, glad somebody did. it ain't going to cost that much more to buy at the track.
Racerchaser
03-24-2008, 11:45 PM
When was the last time you went to the movies and carried a cooler in??????? :confuzeld:
the price of movies have gone almost out of site, by the time you get your ticket, a bag of pop corn, and a soda, maybe a candy bar or two. you are looking at around $15.00.
Racerchaser
03-24-2008, 11:49 PM
i actualy thought nobopdy was going to agree with me, glad somebody did. it ain't going to cost that much more to buy at the track.
I agree with you 100%, in fact posted it early, but I guess wesvids didn't see it or didn't want to see it. Its the old deal "pay now or pay me later". You pay the grocery store or the track, which ever.............
Here's the deal, the way I look at it. We all go and buy groceries for the home, right, will if we eat the at track 1 night, that basically has stretched the food that we had for house 1 more night, so if you look at, its a wash.
http://www.localracechat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33878&page=6
gb81racing
03-24-2008, 11:52 PM
When was the last time you went to the movies and carried a cooler in??????? :confuzeld:
the price of movies have gone almost out of site, by the time you get your ticket, a bag of pop corn, and a soda, maybe a candy bar or two. you are looking at around $15.00.
why do you need a cooler for a 1 and a half hr movie... a race is 5-7 hrs alot longer and i dont take a cooler when i go to the stands either which aint much but when i go to a race to watch i do take a cooler and leave it in my truck. alot of times i dont buy anything at the movies either.
wesvids
03-25-2008, 12:27 AM
I agree with you 100%, in fact posted it early, but I guess wesvids didn't see it or didn't want to see it. Its the old deal "pay now or pay me later". You pay the grocery store or the track, which ever.............
Here's the deal, the way I look at it. We all go and buy groceries for the home, right, will if we eat the at track 1 night, that basically has stretched the food that we had for house 1 more night, so if you look at, its a wash.
http://www.localracechat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33878&page=6
You obviously must be buying your groceries at a store not named Food Lion and definitely one I could not afford to buy at or either you are getting a Major VIP discount at the concession stand at the track. Something just doesn't add up. It ain't no WASH.
I think that no one has a problem supporting a sport that we all like, however I have to agree with the people that has families. Most families that attend a race usually brings 4 or 5 (you're looking at admission plus gas). As Greg #81 stated, you can pack a cooler with hot dogs, sandwiches, drinks, lil debbie cakes, and chips alot cheaper than any concession stand at any track. It makes it more economical for a family. My opinion is that if you cater to the families, attendance could increase. I can't remember the last time that I seen a family of 4 or 5 at the movies due to the expenses. During my family days, I would have to plan and choose when we were going to do something like the movies or a race event due to the expenses. If you only go to the track with one/two, it is a little different...but when a entire family goes, it hits the pocket. Cater to the families! JMO
RaceJunkie
03-25-2008, 09:17 AM
Take your Family to a Baseball / hockey / football, game then to the race and see what the difference is.
We can argue this until we are blue in the face, and we still can't take our cooler to FMS. :feedme:
wpack
03-25-2008, 09:22 AM
Rj, do you always have something smart to say ? Do you have a family ? I have a wife, 2 sons & a father in law we take to the races, at 12 bucks each, that's 60 bucks just to get in, plus the food & drinks, I will be lucky if we got out of the track w/o spending a 120 bucks, can you afford this, if so, please let me know how since you're the know it all around these parts
RaceJunkie.....the point is that the majority of families don't go to a baseball game, football game, hockey game, or concert due to the cost...what I'm saying is try to make it affordable for the families......basically, build it and they will come.
I not arguing the point cause I don't take a cooler, just offering my opinion for families......as you posted, its all up to FMS....we're not the owners.
bleweyez19
03-25-2008, 09:41 AM
I think you should be able to bring a cooler. i know some families can afford not to take a cooler and buy concessions at the track but unfortanetly some cannot and they are the ones that get hit the hardest. Now if they can't afford it they will have to choose option 1 or whatever it was and stay at home with there cooler and there 4 kids that wanted to goto that race. it all boils down to how much money everyone has can you afford the race track or not, it's a shame but somebody's gotta lose. big families that sturggled just to make it to the track before all this started are pretty much Sh*t out of luck! I think some people in here side with the track because they can afford and hit doesn't hurt there finances and this is wrong, racing used to be about the little man,going to the race track used to be and EXPERIENCE, not any more,now its a lesson in economics!I can't exactly afford it every week and the weeks i can't i don't go!I would love to be able to race for the championships. but if the prices keep climbing i don't know if i'll get 1 race a month. But i will keep going/paying even if its 1 race a year,because I LOVE DIRT RACING. and people have made some pretty smart A$$ remarks, i'm sure ya'll's pockets are padded well and this won't effect you guys but step back and think about the folks who genuinley love race and have been going to the track for years upon years, and are diehard local race track/CHAT fans who might not be able to attend.
Ricky Elliott Fan #91
03-25-2008, 10:17 AM
We don't want to go to a football baseball or hockey game. We would like to pack our COOLER and go to a race with our family.:Wicked:
Take your Family to a Baseball / hockey / football, game then to the race and see what the difference is.
We can argue this until we are blue in the face, and we still can't take our cooler to FMS. :feedme:
RaceJunkie
03-25-2008, 11:00 AM
Rj, do you always have something smart to say ? Do you have a family ? I have a wife, 2 sons & a father in law we take to the races, at 12 bucks each, that's 60 bucks just to get in, plus the food & drinks, I will be lucky if we got out of the track w/o spending a 120 bucks, can you afford this, if so, please let me know how since you're the know it all around these parts
No I don't always have something smart to say and I am not trying to be a know it all either. I have a family and we don't all go to the races but we do AS A FAMILY go other places, and don't take a cooler either.
RaceJunkie.....the point is that the majority of families don't go to a baseball game, football game, hockey game, or concert due to the cost...what I'm saying is try to make it affordable for the families......basically, build it and they will come.
I not arguing the point cause I don't take a cooler, just offering my opinion for families......as you posted, its all up to FMS....we're not the owners.
last concert I went to there were more people there than were at FMS this past weekend. I don't agree with the majority factor because more people know about these types of events than they do your local racing event.
We don't want to go to a football baseball or hockey game. We would like to pack our COOLER and go to a race with our family.:Wicked:
And I agree. I don't think I have said that I agree with this policy anywhere, I just accept it like it is. Bottom line not taking your cooler helps the track break even or turn a profit. And any businessman/woman will tell you if you can't turn a profit at what you are doing then you are just trading money. We all get up everyday to work for the man to pad our pockets with cash, and they are no different. Like Eddie said that track is worth a whole lot more to developers but as long as they can keep doing what they are doing and we as fans and racers support the track by telling your friends about it, bringing a friend, and yes even buying their food it will remain a race track.
If we can't do that then we get what we deserve and that's a brand new housing development. Your choice, I'm taking the first one.
:icon_pimp:
jhofficial
03-25-2008, 11:05 AM
It takes money to pay all the sanctioning fees that they are gonna have to pay this year. You want coolers or do you want the Clash, Lucas and WOO races?????? I vote for the great races!!!!!!!!!!!! :1219: :wings_yes:
Lucky13
03-25-2008, 06:39 PM
All I can say is if a family of 4 or 5 wants to bring that much food in the track, thats going to be one big ass cooler for all those hot dogs/ drinks or what ever they are bringing. It easy people, just get to the track early and do some tailgating or a family picnic and eat right before you go in. Every time I go to the track I bring a small grill and cook what I want. If I get hungry I eat again when I come back out. Its not realy that hard.
NOWEAKLINKS
03-25-2008, 06:49 PM
I VOTE FOR MY " COOLER " And "Great" Races ! You no ever time I go to Fms it is pretty darn full and when the big Races come in to town,, " JAM PACKED " Who not makeing the money ? b
enduro78racer
03-25-2008, 08:26 PM
:rant::rant::rant:Im so tired of this crap...im the poor man I cant afford to go now because my wife and three kids my younger brother and his two friends Id need two more jobs just to feed and water that many not to mention my kids dont want to go if they cant have a shirt a car or just anything I struggle just to go once or twice a month now it will definetly only be once a month or two.....I tried the ol diaper bag thing last week to get in some hugs for the kids and some snacks it didnt work we all left....every week there will be people in my shoes they will leave too ..even if only 10 people leave look how much that is..... :Doh:
wesvids
03-25-2008, 09:29 PM
I found a solution. I stumbled on this today. The "Beer Belly" coming to a racetrack near you.
Check it out here http://eupgrader.com/379/fungames/be-the-envy-of-your-peers-with-a-beer-belly/
johnboy26
03-26-2008, 12:18 AM
ok here is my two cent s on this my step dad and i used to take a six pack cooler with soda s just for the hell we didnt want to be in a line waiting while the race was fixing to start. for a family it does mater cost wise .now fayettville has been changing and changing some for better some for worse but the fact remains families are a big part of racing and now with the cost of every thing going up that bottom line is shrinking not everybody has a high paying job or the change to afford gate prices and food and so on so what happens families stop coming because supposedly a family sport such as racing is no longer able to be supported and what happens the families pay for it . yeah fayettville have to pay the fee for being santioned but thats coming out of there bottom line but if there s no one there what good is being sanctioned ???? this is just an attempt to get more money in the bottom line you know we heard from jh offical but you know who we havent heard from the owner of the track on this i wonder why ??? and people wonder why i no longer go to the track but thats my two cent s take it or leave it
Racerchaser
03-26-2008, 02:27 AM
I have been pretty cool about this whole cooler deal, but enough is enough.
Question? - Everybody seems to pretty much in agreement that the price of everything is going up, gas, diesel fuel, food, electricity, ect. right????
Answer = When Ed Longhany and Larry Norris go out and start up a piece of equipment to prep the track or the water truck to water the track or water pump to fill the truck and later on, get the tractor to mow the grass or, after 8:30 when they turn the lights on, Its going to cost them more money also, right. They are entitled to make a living just like you and me and if the sole living is not coming from the track they have ever right in this good world of ours, to at least run it as money making project.
Question? - When the promoters put in the order to the food and sodas supplier they have to pay the price to the suppliers, right
Answer = Too keep the price of concession in line so that the cost of the hot dogs, Bar-B-Que, bologna. french fries and all the other refreshments they have don't cost us an arm and leg. Then you got to add all the condiments it takes, the mustard, catchup, sliced onions, ect, . The beer and sodas are just the same, they come in and someone has got to pay for them.
More and more tracks are going the to the no cooler deal each so they can keep hot dogs and other concession in line with other tracks.
Then when everything is all done for the night, everything has got to be washed and cleaned for next week, Well someone has to get the cleaner supplies and pay for them. When the evening of races are done and every one has gone home now the employees have to clean up the place for a couple of hours. Now I know you didn't think they were going this because they are all "good buddies" did you. They want to be paid too.
Also before all this takes place there are phone calls to insurance agents to find out want they want and don't want (safety fences, equipment) and how much coverage you get for your dollar. Race track insurance is one of the biggest expense a track has outside of the purse. ( also theres the safety equipment , fire truck, ambulance, the emt's, police, they all expect to be paid too).
see where I am coming from now......................
I could see what you where saying (it was late)
wesvids
03-26-2008, 09:16 AM
^chaser, not trying to be a jacka$$.But that is a very confusing post.
bleweyez19
03-26-2008, 10:48 AM
^chaser, not trying to be a jacka$$.But that is a very confusing post.
:iamwithstupid:I don't get it either?
rcrdirtfan
03-26-2008, 12:06 PM
Chaser, I get what you are saying, and its a good post too. Hes sayin there are a lot of hidden cost that people who don't own a track don't think about. A way to make up for this cost is the concession stand, in fact, anyone who knows anything about owning a venue such as a race track, theater, etc. knows that you don't make money off tickets, you make money of concessions! This is my first time getting into this argument, honestly because I don't get what all the B****in is about. Yea i get if you are taking a family to the track its expensive to eat there. SOLUTION, EAT BEFORE YOU GO! Wow, thats hard to figure out!!! I know kids are still gonna want a drink and maybe some fries while your there, but thats gonna cut your cost way down. The way i see it, you've got two choices, A: You get pissed off over the rule, and stop going. B: You still love dirt racing, so you suck it up and pay a few extra bucks. If you choose A, more power to you, but if the owners don't make a good profit, then theres a good possibility the track shuts down, and you loose the choice of option B. If you choose B, the track stays open, and you can still enjoy spending saturday nights at the races.
I don't see the fuss anyway, concessions at FMS are cheap, when I went to the sunday race, they announced about the time the UCARs came out that hot dogs were 2 for a dollar. the only other place you can find hot dogs that cheap is sheetz gas station, and that even cost more than a dollar with tax.
Racerchaser
03-26-2008, 12:54 PM
THANK YOU :14NotWorthy: THANK YOU :14NotWorthy: THANK YOU :HighFive:
bleweyez19
03-26-2008, 01:32 PM
No one is b****in! This a forum that allows people to express there opinions which is what we are all doing here,everyone has the right to there own opinion whether we are for this policy or not. I'm not saying its right, but i do understand that if i can't afford it i won't go. Plain and simple. i for one don't eat at the track, 1. because i am to busy workin on the car or getting ready or whatever, 2. i've already spent my money on tires and fuel (which i choose to do becasue i want to race)If i do goto the track to watch i will bring food and drinks and eat before i go in. I think we're beating a dead horse here! No one is going to make the decision on coolers except for the speedway itself and they have the right to allow or not allow them. My personal opinion is that they should be allowed but JMO! I will continue to goto the track and race as my finances allow me to,and there are times when i can't afford it and i DON'T/WON'T go.I think the prices at FMS have escalated tremendously over the past 3 years and hope that they don't continue this trend! also on the post about everything going up gas,food,electricity, that goes for everyone! it might cost the track more but it also cost everyone else more. It cost more money to have a race car ,more gas money to pull it to the track, more money to buy race fuel, more money to buy tires, more money for maintenance,more money to keep the lights on in the shop,higher water bill to wash the race car etc.,etc., I have spoken with MANY people that said they would not goto the race as much if at all just for the simple fact that they weren't going to spend more money on concessions when its already $12 for reg.(this is a good price and should include supers) race $15 for super $20 for clash and $25 or $30 for Lucas or WoO! I do commend FMS they are a very well maintaned and proffesional facility and i think they do a GREAT JOB! There is a thing or two that i don't agree with but you can't please everybody. See you at the track!
racerrick
03-26-2008, 07:11 PM
Well said #19. I agree with you.
Lucky13
03-26-2008, 07:33 PM
but you know who we havent heard from the owner of the track on this i wonder why ??? Because they are smart and dont get caught up in this non-sense. Thats what I like about them. I guess next time you are at the track, just stop one of them and ask them. I know everytime I have a question thats what I do and they take the time to talk to me face to face.
L8models
03-26-2008, 08:11 PM
but you know who we havent heard from the owner of the track on this i wonder why ??? Because they are smart and dont get caught up in this non-sense. Thats what I like about them. I guess next time you are at the track, just stop one of them and ask them. I know everytime I have a question thats what I do and they take the time to talk to me face to face.
I agree 100%.
bleweyez19
03-26-2008, 08:32 PM
Just voicin my opinion no need to get upset lucky i know some people on here have to play nice for business sake.:Whip:kachoooww!!! LOL!
JOHNDIRTFAN
03-26-2008, 08:34 PM
in my opinion we the fans should line up outside the gate till we talk to mgt.its a slap in the face to watch people in the pits cook on grills and i cant take a cooler in.we need to stand up
Lucky13
03-26-2008, 08:43 PM
Just voicin my opinion no need to get upset lucky i know some people on here have to play nice for business sake.:Whip:kachoooww!!! LOL!
Im not upset at all. It doesnt bother me. All I was saying is go ask the owner whats going on. They might have a reason none of us have heard yet. Who knows
Lucky13
03-26-2008, 08:47 PM
in my opinion we the fans should line up outside the gate till we talk to mgt.its a slap in the face to watch people in the pits cook on grills and i cant take a cooler in.we need to stand up
Ya'll go ahead. I will sit in the parking lot cook and eat chicken wings and drink me a cold one out of my cooler and watch. LOL Give'em hell
bleweyez19
03-26-2008, 09:03 PM
in my opinion we the fans should line up outside the gate till we talk to mgt.its a slap in the face to watch people in the pits cook on grills and i cant take a cooler in.we need to stand up
yeh i bet that does suck. i guess they are lookin out for the drivers,cuz we can still take coolers and stuff in. :john_burger::Hey:
Im not upset at all. It doesnt bother me. All I was saying is go ask the owner whats going on. They might have a reason none of us have heard yet. Who knows
j/k. just a little humor lucky. no hard feelings.
like i said in that earlier post we're beating a dead horse FMS has the right to do whatever they want and whatever is best for there biz.
Dirtchaser
03-26-2008, 09:03 PM
It is funny how some people get up here and act like not being able to bring in there coolers anymore is no big deal. When some of you already complained about another track doing the same thing . Most people with any sense will say they would rather bring there own goods in. It is just a little thing we all have always been able to do. Change does not always make people happy . My self i would rather buy my own drinks. Hell next we may be told no seat cushions brought in. I don,t go to games or the movies . If the races don,t suit me I can go where they do . Some of you need to run for the WHITE HOUSE .
bleweyez19
03-26-2008, 09:04 PM
I think we should throw in the towel on this subject. I know thats what i'm gonna do.
wesvids
03-26-2008, 09:30 PM
but you know who we havent heard from the owner of the track on this i wonder why ??? Because they are smart and dont get caught up in this non-sense. Thats what I like about them. I guess next time you are at the track, just stop one of them and ask them. I know everytime I have a question thats what I do and they take the time to talk to me face to face.
I tend to disagree with the "face to face" part. What better way to reach masses of people than right here? I have plenty of "help me understand" questions all the time, and I do what everyone else is doing, what I consider a "shortcut" to find the answer and GOOGLE it or visit a Site that I would think I could find the answer.
For Example:
I don't have to be "Face to Face" with someone to find out the latest on what's going on at the local dirt tracks. You can come right here to LocalRaceChat and find that out. This Forum provides a lot of answers for me and whole heck of alot of other folks without the hassle of tracking down everyone face to face.
gb81racing
03-27-2008, 05:38 PM
No one is b****in! This a forum that allows people to express there opinions which is what we are all doing here,everyone has the right to there own opinion whether we are for this policy or not. I'm not saying its right, but i do understand that if i can't afford it i won't go. Plain and simple. i for one don't eat at the track, 1. because i am to busy workin on the car or getting ready or whatever, 2. i've already spent my money on tires and fuel (which i choose to do becasue i want to race)If i do goto the track to watch i will bring food and drinks and eat before i go in. I think we're beating a dead horse here! No one is going to make the decision on coolers except for the speedway itself and they have the right to allow or not allow them. My personal opinion is that they should be allowed but JMO! I will continue to goto the track and race as my finances allow me to,and there are times when i can't afford it and i DON'T/WON'T go.I think the prices at FMS have escalated tremendously over the past 3 years and hope that they don't continue this trend! also on the post about everything going up gas,food,electricity, that goes for everyone! it might cost the track more but it also cost everyone else more. It cost more money to have a race car ,more gas money to pull it to the track, more money to buy race fuel, more money to buy tires, more money for maintenance,more money to keep the lights on in the shop,higher water bill to wash the race car etc.,etc., I have spoken with MANY people that said they would not goto the race as much if at all just for the simple fact that they weren't going to spend more money on concessions when its already $12 for reg.(this is a good price and should include supers) race $15 for super $20 for clash and $25 or $30 for Lucas or WoO! I do commend FMS they are a very well maintaned and proffesional facility and i think they do a GREAT JOB! There is a thing or two that i don't agree with but you can't please everybody. See you at the track!
Exactly...also everything else is going up..so what about the racers purse.....they aint going up are they. besides SLM...what about the other classes purse. If we got to pay more to do this stuff then why dont we get more at the end of the night? that is what the track is doing..going up on prices so they will have more $$ at the end of the night.:confused:
Californiakid5
03-27-2008, 05:55 PM
1 The Super Late Models are the main reason everybody is there, and LUCAS and WoO race cost alot of money to get that series to come its like 9 or 10,000 to get them and $30 isnt bad to break even its better than paying $50 at charlotte and payin 3 dollars on a HOT Coke. HAHA the Dominos pizza is good @ Charlotte:smiley_797:
gb81racing
03-27-2008, 06:15 PM
1 The Super Late Models are the main reason everybody is there, and LUCAS and WoO race cost alot of money to get that series to come its like 9 or 10,000 to get them and $30 isnt bad to break even its better than paying $50 at charlotte and payin 3 dollars on a HOT Coke. HAHA the Dominos pizza is good @ Charlotte:smiley_797:
yea well if they are the main reason everybody is there then why does FMS race every week but only run SLM twice a month?? undoughtfully there isnt enough of everybody there to pay for them and us lower classes have to be there to keep them afloat. so when SLM dont run its all about the lower classes so where is the higher purse then or the lower gate entry????
Lucky13
03-27-2008, 06:24 PM
I tend to disagree with the "face to face" part. What better way to reach masses of people than right here? I have plenty of "help me understand" questions all the time, and I do what everyone else is doing, what I consider a "shortcut" to find the answer and GOOGLE it or visit a Site that I would think I could find the answer.
For Example:
I don't have to be "Face to Face" with someone to find out the latest on what's going on at the local dirt tracks. You can come right here to LocalRaceChat and find that out. This Forum provides a lot of answers for me and whole heck of alot of other folks without the hassle of tracking down everyone face to face.
I dont track noone down. If I am walking through the pits or I see them in the grandstand area I just stop them and ask. Its not like I really care about the cooler issue anyway or anything else. I go and have a good time. If I cant afford it one week I stay home. I really dont need to be " Face to Face", but I like to hear it from the horses mouth. Not second hand.
Californiakid5
03-27-2008, 06:42 PM
I say we run them every week i agree with you greg but i guess thats why its there track and not mine haha i wish it was
racer15
03-27-2008, 06:57 PM
If we are going to compare this with other sports then I guess the next step is all drivers get a manger and negotiate a weekley salary ( BUDDY MAY WON'T $1200.00 & TUCKER MAY WON'T $4000.00) a week just to show up win or lose they still get there money LIKE Football, Hockey, & Baseball. Also the track furnishes the Drivers Suite, Helmet, Shoes, have a DR. at the track if one gets hurt, transportion to go out off town, Motel Rooms Etc. RIGHT is RIGHT!!! NO COMPAIRITION Racing is Racing and Football is Football let's keep it that way.
Californiakid5
03-27-2008, 07:03 PM
:icon_agreed::icon_agreed::icon_agreed::exactly::e xactly::sleigh:
rcrdirtfan
03-27-2008, 07:08 PM
:shake: *replace smiley with dead horse*
NOWEAKLINKS
03-27-2008, 07:32 PM
I like ol ED to, But you wait and see, If anybody remember's ? I think ol Dan , M didnt want coolers brought in one year, And you would not beleave how the stands looked.. Guess what ? He brought back the coolers, Everbody started coming back to..
Racerchaser
03-27-2008, 08:12 PM
:idea: ALRIGHT FOR FUN OF IT THE TRACK COOLER POLICY
# 1
NAME ALL THE TRACKS THAT YOU CAN TAKE A COOLER IN......................
# 2
NAME ALL THE TRACKS THAT YOU CAN NOT TAKE A COOLER IN...............
LETS SEE WHICH LIST IS LONGER, NO BASHING, FOR FUN :Deal:
battenfan4life
03-27-2008, 10:38 PM
clr u can take coolers in
fay. and clary's u can't and not sure about dublin
gb81racing
03-27-2008, 10:47 PM
you can take coolers in Dublin....so bring your cooler and your family on out tomm night to DMS to watch some good racing. also it will only cost you $25 for the pits and $15 for the stands and you get your cooler and SLM action every week with no extra charge..WOW.....
racer15
03-28-2008, 12:29 AM
:idea: ALRIGHT FOR FUN OF IT THE TRACK COOLER POLICY
# 1
NAME ALL THE TRACKS THAT YOU CAN TAKE A COOLER IN......................
# 2
NAME ALL THE TRACKS THAT YOU CAN NOT TAKE A COOLER IN...............
LETS SEE WHICH LIST IS LONGER, NO BASHING, FOR FUN :Deal:
Atlanta, bristol, charlotte, chicago, darlington,daytona,dover,fontana, homestead,india,kansas,kentucky,las vegas, madison,martinsville,michigan,milwauke,montreal,na shville,texas,pocono, richmond, new hampshire, phoenix, I probably missed a couple but also some drag tracks, CLR, Dublin, tracks up north can't think of them all but there yuo go it's a start.
Lucky13
03-28-2008, 03:05 PM
Atlanta, bristol, charlotte, chicago, darlington,daytona,dover,fontana, homestead,india,kansas,kentucky,las vegas, madison,martinsville,michigan,milwauke,montreal,na shville,texas,pocono, richmond, new hampshire, phoenix, I probably missed a couple but also some drag tracks, CLR, Dublin, tracks up north can't think of them all but there yuo go it's a start.
Who gives a **** about asphalt, I thought you were a dirt track fan. All those tracks are N A S C R A P tracks. I know you cant take coolers in at FMS, Clarys, Eldora, or 34 Raceway in Iowa or Knoxville. Can you take them in at Lowes Dirt track?
jog49
03-28-2008, 04:16 PM
Yes!!!!
Lucky13
03-28-2008, 04:33 PM
OK I didnt know about Lowes. Who really cares anyway. Just go and drink all you want before the races, kinda like Jog and myself. LOL
racer15
03-28-2008, 04:44 PM
OK I didnt know about Lowes. Who really cares anyway. Just go and drink all you want before the races, kinda like Jog and myself. LOLIf you don't care about this so much WHY do you keep reading and posting here leave it alone. And just to let you know I am a TRUE race fan it don't mater if it's worms I'll watch them race on dirt, rock, hell even in a tube. Also that post did not say dirt or not it said list the tracks!!!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH Starting on that beer early for Fay. hu?LoL
NOWEAKLINKS
03-28-2008, 09:12 PM
You got that right, L 13 Keep it on Dirt !
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