Crate Sprint Series ?????

[imca36]

Just getting some feed back on how many people would be interested in a crate Spec sprint car series. This spec class would be using either the 602 or 604 GM Crate engine. There has been thought of the King of the mountain weekly race series (www.komwrs.com) race director Rocky Estep, tossing the idea around. At this time the king of the mountain series races tracks located around the West Virginia area. There is proposal that this series along with the new Sprint Spec series will expand to the following states, NC, SC, PA, OH, VA for 2009. We will be working very hard in obtaining class and point fund sponsors for this series and the new Sprint Spec class. Please remember this post is just to see what we get for interest, if there are people that show a good interest, we will then proceed with putting together the Sprint Spec series.


Thank You

[brencoracing]

what would they be using as far as fuel injection goes on them?

[imca36]

they would be using a carb. on gas

[vms305]

If you talking sprint car, sprint with wing on top, not going to happen....

what's the price of these crate motors?

Lets face big motor sprint cars are fading fast. ascs 360 is the way or the racesaver 305's.

what they need to do is run ascs 360 rules but mandat self starters from bert transmission.. Theres tracks in the northeast that said until sprints get starters there not going to run them.. The problem is the self starter system is $3000

[Racerchaser]

don't know you got your information there vms, but don't tell 7 - 8 tracks in Penn and the Ohio tracks plus the WoO series about small motors. Also up here I don't what track you are talking about not running sprints because they do not have starters. urc runs almost everywhere,Del, Md, Penn, NY, NJ and Canada. Plus the big motor sprints just had a very successful tour in Florida for 3 weeks


If you talking sprint car, sprint with wing on top, not going to happen....

what's the price of these crate motors?

Lets face big motor sprint cars are fading fast. ascs 360 is the way or the racesaver 305's.

what they need to do is run ascs 360 rules but mandat self starters from bert transmission.. Theres tracks in the northeast that said until sprints get starters there not going to run them.. The problem is the self starter system is $3000

[vms305]

That would be albany saratoga...direct quote No plans for any Sprints in 08...


Give me Sprints with a self- starter and a decent purse and we might consider them!!!

Thanks,

Bruce J Richards
CVRA Motorsports

Your wrong with this motor thing as well there are more 360 guys out there look at the ASCS website..And thats not all of the clubs. THe 410's are a dying breed how many people do you know that can affored $35,ooo engines.. at least the 360 is $18000 pro built of course. Do you read sprint car and midget you should..theres what 3 place's that 410s survive, all stars,pa and woo...o yea austraila, knoxville. 410s dont last....must rebuild often

[skinser11fan]

Just getting some feed back on how many people would be interested in a crate Spec sprint car series. This spec class would be using either the 602 or 604 GM Crate engine. There has been thought of the King of the mountain weekly race series (www.komwrs.com (http://www.komwrs.com)) race director Rocky Estep, tossing the idea around. At this time the king of the mountain series races tracks located around the West Virginia area. There is proposal that this series along with the new Sprint Spec series will expand to the following states, NC, SC, PA, OH, VA for 2009. We will be working very hard in obtaining class and point fund sponsors for this series and the new Sprint Spec class. Please remember this post is just to see what we get for interest, if there are people that show a good interest, we will then proceed with putting together the Sprint Spec series.


Thank You

JMO, but why would someone start another spec sprint series when you already have in PA a 305 (Race Saver Series), in VA you have VA Motor Speedway running a Race Saver Series, the VA Sprint Series (Race Saver Series) running in VA/NC, not to mention ASCS Mid-Atlantic and Southern Tour. Ohio has some kind of 305 touring series, where will the cars and tracks come from? Haven't seen a full field of sprint cars outside of PA in the Mid-Atlantic region, as a fan 10-12 sprint cars don't make a show. In NC,SC, and VA Late Model racing is king.

[vms305]

Well in ny and canada, there are ess,ess, ascs pat, brighton and now osweken speedway..

The biggest thing is making people aware that you can buy a front running sprint car probably alot cheaper then othere class's

right now i know where u can get a $7500 complete racesaver car.

What i would do is schedule around other series of sprints and not penilized.. Its all about $$$$$....travel expence is going to be crazy...

But i figured if we dont have any accidents this year i can run the sprint car for 17 race and only spend $1200 this is a 305

theres tracks in mo and ark that run weekly sprints non wing 305 and 360's together every night or one or the other will be off.

[Pretender]

If you talking sprint car, sprint with wing on top, not going to happen....

what's the price of these crate motors?

Lets face big motor sprint cars are fading fast. ascs 360 is the way or the racesaver 305's.

what they need to do is run ascs 360 rules but mandat self starters from bert transmission.. Theres tracks in the northeast that said until sprints get starters there not going to run them.. The problem is the self starter system is $3000

The following is a press release from Stan Lester, President of Fastrak;



Hello everyone. I hope you had a good holiday. I can see everyone has literally been "lit up' with the announcement of GM dropping the RM sealing bolt program. I do think it was a little premature of IMCA to announce anything. I understand their concern but keep in mind GM has not yet committed to anything good or bad.

Who knows what may happen? I certainly don't and neither does anyone else. I would hope our relationship with GM was as good as any and I believe it is. Nothing against GM at all. They have been good to FASTRAK and all of our teams but, business is business and I depend on no one company for the success of this company. That would be a very foolish way to do business period.

Most of you don't know, because we never really pushed it but we started with a FASTRAK spec engne. All racing pieces from aftermarket companies and 460 HP for $4850. Sounded like a real race engine and indeed was a real race engine. However, I was told over and over that no one knew us at that time, and they trusted GM and wanted to run the GM crate engines with us. I said ok so we 'allowed' the GM crate engines. Then we were forced to 'detune' the FASTRAK spec engine to work within the GM HP. The spec engines that were out there were held to the Southern Region so I could keep a handle on them.

The FASTRAK spec engine was grandfathered in for 2007 and deleted from that point forward. That engine has been put back into r&d and will set on the shelf ready for battle at a moments notice. SO NO ISSUE.

The new FASTRAK sprint engine will be a piece built by 'authorized' engine builders across the country. There will be a centralized parts warehouse whereby 'authorized' builders call and order a kit number and they will receive a entire kit from the bolts to gaskets to block. Engine builder calls and says I have so and so's engine here, vin number ? He sends the written documention to the office and we issue the builder a set of bolts for THAT engine. The engine is registered to the owner of such. It is a bolt together piece and has set labor prices so that the engine builders become the 'police' because its their name on the line. The sealing bolts are to 'protect' the engine builders.

The Sprint engine at this time is 530 HP and 510 foot lbs of torque and retails for $7000. It is all aftermarket pieces so wha la, everyone is back in the game including the aftermarket manufacturers. We will use this engine in 2008 to debut the FASTRAK Sprint Cars and it will be our proving ground for future classes should we need to ever go that route.

We are already in the process of a Super Late Model 650 HP engine for in the neighborhood of $12,700. Should the program go somewhat as expected, the National Champion in 2012 of the Super Class will receive $250,000.

We already have kits right now for Supers that are 800 plus HP and cost $18,000.

Oh the sealing bolts, it really has been solved since 2005. Thats all I can say.

So FASTRAK is not dependant on any one company for our success. The choice is what sanctioning body do you race with? The one thats ready now, or the ones that are going to be scrambling? The FASTRAK teams, regions and weekly tracks are safe for years to come.

Wait till you see whats next!

www.fastrakracing.com

Stan Lester
FASTRAK Racing Series
(678) 935-7304
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[brencoracing]

Well in ny and canada, there are ess,ess, ascs pat, brighton and now osweken speedway..

The biggest thing is making people aware that you can buy a front running sprint car probably alot cheaper then othere class's

right now i know where u can get a $7500 complete racesaver car.

What i would do is schedule around other series of sprints and not penilized.. Its all about $$$$$....travel expence is going to be crazy...

But i figured if we dont have any accidents this year i can run the sprint car for 17 race and only spend $1200 this is a 305

theres tracks in mo and ark that run weekly sprints non wing 305 and 360's together every night or one or the other will be off.


how do you come up with 1200 for a complete year? do you never buy any tires......fuel.....or pit entrance or fuel for the truck to get it there with......?

[Racerchaser]

how far do you live from the track, also what are you counting as racing expenses.
up here mod lites spend more then that per year on tires.


Well in ny and canada, there are ess,ess, ascs pat, brighton and now osweken speedway..

The biggest thing is making people aware that you can buy a front running sprint car probably alot cheaper then othere class's

right now i know where u can get a $7500 complete racesaver car.

What i would do is schedule around other series of sprints and not penilized.. Its all about $$$$$....travel expence is going to be crazy...

But i figured if we dont have any accidents this year i can run the sprint car for 17 race and only spend $1200 this is a 305

theres tracks in mo and ark that run weekly sprints non wing 305 and 360's together every night or one or the other will be off.

[brencoracing]

we have a track 7 miles away and @ $25 a person for pit entrance is 125 right there so if we ONLY were to run 25 races thats 3125 and fuel at 5-6 bucks a gallon.....you have 2000-2500 in fuel for a year........so I dont see where your numbers add up....and 1200 in tires is nothing @ all.....

[vms305]

JMO


it was something like this.. this is cost of car not travel expence. You could add

$20 for 17 races

I didnt metion we run biodisel .72 cents a gallon...


If i remmber right it was

0ne left rear i bought $150

two fron tires $115 no i dont us hossier only on the rr

I think it was 3 barrels of fuel (methonal) $217 from univar

Something like 8 cases of oil, no i don't us the $8 a quart oil. $20-$25 a case change oil every 2 races

don't need gear oil...same gear all year

crate thigs is different but where are the cars coming from and $7000 for a motor. I don't know where are they racing at again. Dont know why they would run a racesaver class still would be cheaper for us garage guys who build are own motors.

[Racerchaser]

something don't add up here

17 x 20 = 340.00
217 x 3 = 651.00 (mighty cheap fuel) (what size drums)
1 L/R tire = 150.00
2 tires = 230.00
8 x 22.50 = 170.00 (oil)
total===== $1541

$1541.00 - $1200.00 = $341.00 (over)

does not include fuel for tow vehicle.

[vms305]

i only count what it cost to run the car not tow it there and adm.. thats covered buy winnings.. no sponsors all out pocket to maintain the car for 17 races

[brencoracing]

I am not trying to seem like a dick or butt heads with you a lot im just saying that 1200-1500 or w.e is damn near impossible. and plus most people run A LOT more then 17 races year a lot.....at minium most probally run close to double @ a local track

[Racerchaser]

did you see the price for racing fuel. $3.95 a gal

$3.95 x 55 = 217.25

NO WAY IN DELAWARE OR MARYLAND

[brencoracing]

tell me about it, it cost about 130-150 bucks to fill up our trucks......(diesel f 350's) prices are crazy for fuel

[Racerchaser]

you got a good looking car. Maybe i can get down and seeit some time this season


:racecar:

[vms305]

your right i did go over budget...I bought two front tires $115. Since i sold my four wheeler i had the dough.. I was planning on the left rear though.. No i dont buy tires because I or we dont burn them up like a 360 does.. i will probably run these same tire next year same set. I ran those front tires for two years..we only run 17 times at vms.. one urc race i might go to..


I get 55 gal drums.. from a oil distrubtor and yes its 217 this is virgin methanol. 3.95 per gal...

red diseal is like 3.45 or so but just so happens my friend makes some check it out it equals 70 cents... come on down check it...

I can tell you this if someone wants to get into this fast track stuff i will sell you everything including the truck for $50,000

http://www.ezbiodiesel.com/DIY%20kits.htm

[brencoracing]

you got a good looking car. Maybe i can get down and seeit some time this season


:racecar:


who was that 2 ?


why are you selling out vms?

[Racerchaser]

you brenty

[vms305]

I ain't but if someone wants to buy a car in this area i'll sell them everything for 50

[brencoracing]

you brenty

ok thanks this year it will actually be a black and orange car #96R pics will be up in the near future thanks though looking forward to meet you if you come down.