Mini Stocks

[BradCox8J]

Who all is up for racing tires this coming up year. Those 13 inch street tires are getting very hard to find. I cant find any good ones. So how bout it?? What do yall think?

[Red Dust]

it dont matter to me. just let me know either way so i know what to get.

[BradCox8J]

But you would rather have racing tires though right? I deffinately would.

[Jr_Ross_3]

i agree they are getting hard to find i'd rather go to racing tires

[onealmotorsport]

I DONT NO ABOUT THAT.LIKE WHEN RED DUST WANTED RACIN BODIES AND EVERY ONE SAID THAT IT WAS A PURE STOCK CLASS.ITS SUPPOSED TO BE A BEGINERS CLASS ANYWAY.THEY DONT MAKE THAT MUCH DIFFERENCE.AND YOU CAN GET STREET TIRES FROM PEP BOYS FOR 150.00 ALL DAY LONG.THATS MY 2 CENTS

:Think:

DUSTIN O'NEAL
MINI STOCK 4
#4

[BAM33]

I really don't care but i'am like dustin this is surpose to be a stock class. I have run both and the racing tires help a litte but the cars with street tires do just as good. Like i said i don't care but i am going to run street tires because they are cheaper and i'am on a buget. If they will change the rule for you thats fine but make the rule so you can still run street tires if you want to. For those on a buget like me.

street tires $150.00 to 250.00
racing tires $350.00 and up:Deal:

[wesleycogdell]

if you keep adding things to ps4 you might as well run ss4. its a stock class. keep it that way. street tires and a stock motor.

[BAM33]

I agree with you wesley. I now until 2005 we had to run stock carburators and stock manifold. Every year it seem they add more and more to this class. Like you said if they keep adding it's going to be a ss4 with 8" tires.:DontKnow::rules:

[wesleycogdell]

you have to keep the class affordable. i really feel like you should be able to race for well under $3000 a season

[BradCox8J]

They dont cost that much more. They really help alot! Two out of the three races i won this year i had my racing tires. They help alot because theyre taller, and give you more top end at the end of the strait so you dont turn as hard. A set of Pep Boys tires is $242.96 and i got my racing tires for 300. Plus we were able to run racing tires up until this year.

[wesleycogdell]

but some guys cant afford that $50 more dollars. racing tires wont last as long as radials either.

[BradCox8J]

On a soft track like clarys they do...50$ aint nothin to a racer.

[w1ck3d0n3l0st]

to some racers 50 may be something

[wesleycogdell]

$50 is alot to alot of folks. especially runnin in a lower class

[w1ck3d0n3l0st]

Hence that is why they are runnin in a lower class most the time.

[DIRTFUNFAN]

Just Curious What The Complete Size Is For The 13 Tires? Meaning Is It A 195/65 R13 For Example.

[aintskeered34]

I aint tryin to say nothin bad but i think yall who want to run racin tires move up to SS4. The 35 ss4 car at countyline, (if they changed the heads i think it was) could run in ps4. But them tires will cost alota xtra money. I mean 4 or 5 sets a year. That mite be a big exaduration but just think.

[w1ck3d0n3l0st]

That mite be a big exaduration but just think.??????????????

[aintskeered34]

Well no mattr what everyones gunna need new tires. What bout he boys tryin to win the championship? I mean i know its ss4 but Vitor May and all them (yea if u aint figured, when i go thats who with) have LOTS o tires. And they one the points champ. Now lets say 20 tires. 20 times 200 or 300= WOW.:smiley_397:

[BradCox8J]

most street tires that we run are p205/60 R13

[BradCox8J]

My Racing tires lasted me all year.

[#7jrReynolds]

i don't mean no harm but this is a beginer class so those who want to change things need to go up becuse if they keep changeing things it will be just like the two v8 class. put together.


#7jrAaron Reynolds

[aintskeered34]

He said wat i was thinkin

[BradCox8J]

We have been able to run the up until this year. Why not go back?

[wesleycogdell]

brad you cant run two classes that are so close together. leave them on street tires with stock bodies and somewhat stock motors. if you want to spend the extra, move up. im not tryin to be a you know what but thats why alot of guys cant afford to race. you keep allowing more and more on the cars and soon the shadetree mechanic cant afford to run up front.

[BradCox8J]

I agree with stock bodies and somewhat stock motors like they are. Just have to option to run racing tires.

[wesleycogdell]

but then that puts you at an unfair advantage. why dont we run on something we can all afford. bike tires.

[BradCox8J]

Its always been this way though. Yea i know rite.haha

[wesleycogdell]

i know it has always been that way. but i dont think in a beginner class that racing tires should be an option. keep it as stock as possible

[BradCox8J]

Its not really a beginner class. There are allot of people who have been racing it forever...Brian Meddlin, Gene Turner, Gerald Lutz, Jr. Johnson, ect.

[wesleycogdell]

its still a beginner class. you are just starting out. red dust, aaron reynolds, brian theide, gary dillon, and so on. of course they have been racing in that class for a while. it might be all they can afford. anyway, the goal of any track is to keep the cost of racing as low as possible for the drivers. racing tires for a mini stock class is another expense. if you want racing tires, move up.

[BradCox8J]

Brian Theide has raced before. And you know Brian and Gary have the MONEY!!! Maybe you should get a mini stock?? =D

[wesleycogdell]

ill do it if you pay for school and a brand new truck :D

[wesleycogdell]

IM me or text me if you wanna talk. lol. this is about ministocks and how they dont need racin tires.


and the answer to your question is yes

[ghaw55crewchief]

I was going to stay clear of this post but the more I read the more I have to say on this, If you want to race with racing tires ,thats fine but dont push the guys and gals that are out there to have a good time. Some racers can 't afford them some can, BOTTOM LINE. If you want racing tires move to a class that alloweds them , I ve been there done that Stock 4 is stock 4 and many drivers and owners want to keep it that way. SO IF YOU CAN RUN WITH THE BIG DOGS!!! MOVE UP !!!!

[JAGMTRSPTS17]

its night and day between the 2 tires:witch:

[racerswife8]

im brads dad .most of you guys have made your point you dont want the racing tires, but how many of you are going to run clarys anyway? as for 55crewchief bottom line stock 4 is not stock 4 anymore , if you really want stock 4 take away headers, big carb,and the 450 cam also i may move him up to ss4 [ big dogs as you say] i think he will do just fine . How about YOU 55

[ghaw55crewchief]

Good point on the stock 4 not being a really stock 4 class, I may have jumped the gun before looking at in in that respect. Stock 4 should be STOCK 4 as you say carb manifold ect. I was not trying to bash your son just trying to make a point, Im sorry if it came out that why. Im sure in will do good in the ss4 class If you move him up.

[Marcia Reed]

OK, I've read the responses so I'll give my OPINION on this..........Stock 4 should be just that STOCK 4......we never ran this class so we had nothing to do with the rules that are there for the class, but I do believe they should be stock, that's the problem that now exists with the PSV8 and SS classes, they are way to close together(and this came about bygiving the PSV8's a little something each year and now look at them).......now I like the MS4 class and would not change a thing about it if I were running the track, it seems to have worked out just fine this past season and the cars seemed pretty competitive with each other......and remember, this is my opinion......not speaking from a promoter nor owners pov, just adding my 2 cents...lol

[BradCox8J]

Dang now i know how Nevin felt about the bodies thing he got bashed too. Forget about it keep em i dont really car. And i am out there to have a good time. No money in it. Im still gonna fight for them in the meeting though.

[Marcia Reed]

Dang now i know how Nevin felt about the bodies thing he got bashed too. Forget about it keep em i dont really car. And i am out there to have a good time. No money in it. Im still gonna fight for them in the meeting though.

I am in no way bashing you nor am I knocking your idea, that's why I said it was simply my 2 cents, and I've seen first hand what can happen when you give a class a little bit each year, you eventualy get to the point that two classes are just too close together to have good counts in both......

[w1ck3d0n3l0st]

Its called mini stock for a reason. Stock being the key word in the class. That is like givin purestock V8 the choose of runnin racin tires.

[BradCox8J]

I am in no way bashing you nor am I knocking your idea, that's why I said it was simply my 2 cents, and I've seen first hand what can happen when you give a class a little bit each year, you eventualy get to the point that two classes are just too close together to have good counts in both......

I was talking about everyone in general..im not asking for something that we never had. Im just asking for them to give back what they took.

[loosechange07]

you guys..... i am in no way bashing anyone nor intend to... and I dont have a dog in this fight BUT..........are just beating that dead horse further in the ground with a knubb for a stick. they will bring 2008 rules out soon enough!!! (hopefully lol)

[CHansen]

How about this curve ball.............I think it is Diamond Retreds out of South Carolina that Re-Caps 13 inch radial car tires with racing rubber, and at a track like Clary's one set will last you all year.........:09Crazy:

[BradCox8J]

Yea that would be a great idea. Re-Caps and racing tires are about the same thing. Im up for it.

[Team420]

Reading all of this here has made me want to add my 3 cents worth. Why change something that works for everyone? We are a stock class, therefore we should be running stock tires, stock manifolds, and stock carburetors. A racing tire, recap tire, header, or a 500 Holly carburetor is stock for a mini stock. But as everyone knows, you can't make everyone happy. Keep changing the rules and eventually you will not have anyone to race, that or either everyone will be running in the same class cause it would only be one class for everyone to run in. I am the crew chief on the # 44 for JR Johnson. We run each and every week and we race what we can afford. That is the reason that we are still running the mini stock 4 class. And you know I just got done re-reading the rules for the mini stocks at County Line and Clarys and no where in there does it state that this is a beginners class, so where did all that come about it being a beginners class? Just by word of mouth or did I just miss that in the rules? As far as changing the rules to allow a racing tire, recap or what ever, why not keep it the same? You have to do your home work to get make your car handle the way that you want it to. Put the car on a set of scales, scale it out, get the cross weights and the bite in the rear end to where it needs to be and guess what???? We will see you in victory lane. Don't believe me? Just come out and watch us. We had some bad luck at the beginning of the season and there towards middle way the season we got the bugs worked out and won 5 races. Have a good winter and we hope to see everyone back when the race season starts back. Till then........... WE got homework to do..... Class dismissed!!!!!:smoke:

[Team420]

And by the way, I was not trying to make anyone mad nor was I trying to bash anyone. I was just stating the facts as I see them. I got the chance to meet Brad and his dad, and Red Dust when they came to County Line to race. All of these guys are really nice people and we enjoyed racing with them all. Hope to see all you guys back next year.

[BradCox8J]

Racing tires may not make a difference on a hard track like County Line...but they sure do on a soft track like Clarys. And my car handles just fine. Im fine with keeping the rules the way they are..just having an option to run them would be nice.

[Jr_Ross_3]

Did youll every make the conclusion on the closed interior.
I dont see nuttin wrong wit it, it cant hurt or help u so y not.

[onealmotorsport]

Ok if u want to run racing tires lets just run 10 inch tires and wheels and so we wont have a problem with tires.and just get it over with if thats what every one wants.we might as well change the motors to every one should just run superstock.best thing to do is just leave the rules the way they are.my 2 cents

[Red Dust]

Ok if u want to run racing tires lets just run 10 inch tires and wheels and so we wont have a problem with tires.and just get it over with if thats what every one wants.we might as well change the motors to every one should just run superstock.best thing to do is just leave the rules the way they are.my 2 cents




i dont care either way. i just want to outrun the 01, 8J, and 4.LOL

[BradCox8J]

Ok if u want to run racing tires lets just run 10 inch tires and wheels and so we wont have a problem with tires.and just get it over with if thats what every one wants.we might as well change the motors to every one should just run superstock.best thing to do is just leave the rules the way they are.my 2 cents



Seems like everyone already has a superstock motor dont it Dustin? It dont matter to me..just a suggestion.

[BradCox8J]

i dont care either way. i just want to outrun the 01, 8J, and 4.LOL

Shoot Nevin im just tryin to keep up with ya. And i dont think anyones ever gonna outrun the 01 legally.

[#7jrReynolds]

so if the mini stock 4 is gona become superstock they need to have a cadet class for the younger drivers or just let the ones that does not want to change anything run mini stock

[Jr_Ross_3]

i agree with #7jr if u dont wanna go up in the next class you shouldnt have to.

i think u should be able to run in the class you want to if your legal for that class

[shotgun]

well for my reply to this thread heck NO to racin tires Im for keepin cost low as possible. If you want to run racing tires race in SS4.

Shotgun

[deanhoward]

I have to agree with Shotgun, it is supposed to be a stock class (supposed to be) Let's keep it that way (for the most part)

Stay Hungry 4g

[77v8stock]

I would opt for pure stock all the way through. Keep it a budget class and you will keep it full. You allow for a lot of modifications and it will turn into a money game. I would rather have more cars in the class than faster cars.

[Red Dust]

i say let it be run what you brung every week. lets face it. it is going to be like that anyway:rant:

[pstk6]

i dont run 4cyls of anykind how about this if u want to run race tires run used ss4 tires and add 100 lbs or give up he

ader and 500 carb or forget about it all together

[wesleycogdell]

reddust, if you say "run what you brung", thats a sure fire way to turn it into a money game. if you want to run what you brung, move up and quit ruining the lower budget classes for the other guys

[Red Dust]

well damn. i see nobody on this board knows what sarcasm is.

[wesleycogdell]

sry i though you were bein serious. i do agree that ministocks are starting to get out of hand. thats why we have to limit them now.

[Red Dust]

sry i though you were bein serious. i do agree that ministocks are starting to get out of hand. thats why we have to limit them now.

i dont understand all of these people. i have never in my life seen so many grown men whining and complaining than in this 4 cylinder class. racing is supposed to be fun. if you want to be a baby about everybody outrunning you, dont race. you have realize that you aint going to win every race. go home, do your homework and try again. i didnt even outrun most of the people in mini stock at clarys and everybody was whining about my car. everybody needs to grow up and just have fun out there.

tracks will never get people to quit cheating. as long as racing exists there will be cheating. i dont like it but i deal with it.:check_flag2:

[aintskeered34]

THATS what its all about. HAVING FUN. I know im just a kid racin lawnmowers that go 10 mile a hour but even i know that.

[buddyislesflying11ss]

tracks will never get people to quit cheating. as long as racing exists there will be cheating. i dont like it but i deal with it.:check_flag2: BUT TRACK NEED TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT THE PROBLEM WITH THE RULES...RULES AND THE WAY YOU RUN YOUR TRACK AND WHAT YOU LET SLIDE SHOULD BE #1 THING ON YOU LIST TO GET RIGHT IF NOT THIS WEEK THEN NEXT WEEK...IT A WORK IN PROGRESS DEAL... TRY TO RUN THE TRACK ON TIME AND DO WHAT YOU SAY YOU GOING TO DO.... AS FAR AS CLASSES---KEEP MINI STOCK ( STOCK)....AND DO WHAT RIGHT IN THE OTHER CLASSES AS WELL...

[BradCox8J]

reddust, if you say "run what you brung", thats a sure fire way to turn it into a money game. if you want to run what you brung, move up and quit ruining the lower budget classes for the other guys

Thats the way it was last year...racing is turning in to a money game. Face it theres no budget class in racing.

[BradCox8J]

This is getting to be a big problem. All i did was ask for the racing tires back..the ones that they took away this year. They let us run a header and took the tires. Id rather have the tires than the header.

[Racerchaser]

Some times its not about cheating because"you" get beat, could be your racing style does not suit that track, could be your car is not handling on that track, could be tires, could be your line, understand where this is going. just because you don't win as Red Dust said, go home and do your homework and not run your month. A little work just might make you a winner.







tracks will never get people to quit cheating. as long as racing exists there will be cheating. i dont like it but i deal with it.:check_flag2: BUT TRACK NEED TO BE SERIOUS ABOUT THE PROBLEM WITH THE RULES...RULES AND THE WAY YOU RUN YOUR TRACK AND WHAT YOU LET SLIDE SHOULD BE #1 THING ON YOU LIST TO GET RIGHT IF NOT THIS WEEK THEN NEXT WEEK...IT A WORK IN PROGRESS DEAL... TRY TO RUN THE TRACK ON TIME AND DO WHAT YOU SAY YOU GOING TO DO.... AS FAR AS CLASSES---KEEP MINI STOCK ( STOCK)....AND DO WHAT RIGHT IN THE OTHER CLASSES AS WELL...

[w1ck3d0n3l0st]

just because you don't win as Red Dust said, go home and do your homework and not run your month. A little work just might make you a winner.



well said both of ya :MODhappyjaz:

[BradCox8J]

Some times its not about cheating because"you" get beat, could be your racing style does not suit that track, could be your car is not handling on that track, could be tires, could be your line, understand where this is going. just because you don't win as Red Dust said, go home and do your homework and not run your month. A little work just might make you a winner.


Sir i didnt think i was running my mouth. And i think i did pretty good my rookie season, Racing with a bunch of grown men, missing 3 races because of surgery. And still running up front every week. To me i am a winner because i stuck with the big dogs this year. And i was never complaining about the way my car handled or ran. I think it ran fine. And im sorry if this is inapropriate in any way.

[#7jrReynolds]

i am putting my car back together for next year and i need to know what kind of tires to get racing or can i keep my street tires



7jr aaron reynolds

[aintskeered34]

Well to Brad i seen you at CLR once or twice and i think you run good for how old you are. No offense to any one but you can drive better than alotta folks.

[Red Dust]

Well to Brad i seen you at CLR once or twice and i think you run good for how old you are. No offense to any one but you can drive better than alotta folks.


i take alot of offense to that.:biggrin:

[BradCox8J]

Well to Brad i seen you at CLR once or twice and i think you run good for how old you are. No offense to any one but you can drive better than alotta folks.

Thanks man that means alot. Ive only been on that track twice.

[BradCox8J]

i take alot of offense to that.:biggrin:

Haha somehow i knew you would say something like that Nevin. lol

[WhitleyRacing08]

Aaron Id keep the street tires. They aint gonna change the rules. This is the longest post ive ever seen about they took this I want it back...they give us this I dont want that. Just be content with the way it is and LETS DO THE DAMN THANG!!!!!!!:no34::10Cry::havefun::dirt_race:

[Red Dust]

Aaron Id keep the street tires. They aint gonna change the rules. This is the longest post ive ever seen about they took this I want it back...they give us this I dont want that. Just be content with the way it is and LETS DO THE DAMN THANG!!!!!!!:no34::10Cry::havefun::dirt_race:

WORD:MODhappyjaz:

[BradCox8J]

Aaron Id keep the street tires. They aint gonna change the rules. This is the longest post ive ever seen about they took this I want it back...they give us this I dont want that. Just be content with the way it is and LETS DO THE DAMN THANG!!!!!!!:no34::10Cry::havefun::dirt_race:

Like ive said before..im not trying to change or alter the mini stock class in any way. And im not crying about anything. I have no reason to.

[shotgun]

well i wish yall wld let us knw if yall r gonna stick to the street tires or go to racin tires. if u do allow racing tires i think u shld still allow street tires, but i really think that it wld be stupid if yall do allow racing tires b/c they have another class that they can race em in. to the boys that wants to run racing tires save up ya money & move up to super stock four & be done wid it & run ya racing tires. us poor folks like myself caint afford racing tires. srry if this is offenseve to anyone but this has gone on long enough.

sincerly,
shotgun

[Team420]

Shotgun, I don't think that this will pertain to us. Our rules are already posted on the website. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this for Clarys? County Line rules remain the same for this year as they were for last year from what I have read. Our rules say DOT street tires!!!:rules:

[Marcia Reed]

I really think this has more than run it's course.....Like I said in another post, there will be no announcements or decisions until after the first of the year due to the fact that the lease does not expire until December 31st......