Fastrack Series

[tas]

would be in favor of having a fastracks series backed track here

[JAMES@CLR]

It is the future of racing. I think it is a good idea in several classes.

[Dirtfan_21]

my vote has been added..

[steelkiwi75]

thank you for starting this post tas. this is jmo but it seems like racing in this area is hurting more than just about anywhere in the us. 10 or less cars in most divisions every week. i'm generalizing here. i think this would be a good shot in the arm. equal cars, equal motors, just driver and crew talent. not $$$$$$$$$$$$ but also going with a sanctioning series could go along ways in standardizing rules for other classes.

[wesleycogdell]

i see that most are in favor of the fastrack series.

[Dirtfan_21]

i see that most are in favor of the fastrack series.

yep, thats the way its looking..

[wesleycogdell]

id personally love to see it around here. everything comes down to the crew and the driver. you will find out who the real drivers in the area are.

[w1ck3d0n3l0st]

Looks like it would be a fav . Maybe a track will pick it up

[Dirtfan_21]

Looks like it would be a fav . Maybe a track will pick it up

maybe..

[w1ck3d0n3l0st]

Wonder is Jh has voted on here yet, He is more and likely one of the 3 that said no.lol

[insanegraphics]

I have a Fastrak Crate car, and would love to come race there some. I know of a couple more cars from up here that would come race also.

[Dirtfan_21]

Wonder is Jh has voted on here yet, He is more and likely one of the 3 that said no.lol

lol..probably so

[gb81racing]

is FASTRACK series only for crates. i know there is a crate series but i dont know much more about this. any help. i want to know some info before i vote. lol

[steelkiwi75]

just google fastraks greg.

[JAMES@CLR]

Fastrack is only crates. There are a number of other crate series out there also.

[w1ck3d0n3l0st]

Man if YES hasn;t checked out and ran away .

[Wilder4Racin]

James,. have you considered running this series at CLR?

[w1ck3d0n3l0st]

that would be awesome Wilder

[wesleycogdell]

you will most likely need two tracks in this area to go with the series. it would be neat to see and would benefit both tracks

[jhofficial]

Wonder is Jh has voted on here yet, He is more and likely one of the 3 that said no.lol

lol..probably so

I have voted. Has nothing to do with crate cars. I don't like sanctions. If the pole was would you like to see crate like Models added as a support Division at an area track I would have been the first to vote yes.


you will most likely need two tracks in this area to go with the series. it would be neat to see and would benefit both tracks


That is :exactly: right Wes, but the only way to make that work for both tracks is if one of them run on friday night.

[wesleycogdell]

ehhhh not necessarily. just as long as they can go to another track if theirs is closed

[steelkiwi75]

thing is if your sanctioned you can get regoinal and national points, qualify for the nationalrace paying 50,000 dollars or get part of the 350,000 points fund. also contingency money.

[steelkiwi75]

also forgot one thing. no sanctioning means tracks can change the rules and that means everything right back to the way they r now. no standardized rules. (the difficult task clarys is having with their super street rules for the nationals). fastraks does let u vary from their rules a little, just takes away from the points money.

[insanegraphics]

I love Fastrak sanctioning. I have ran at 13 different tracks this year, and besides 311 all 12 other tracks have had the same rules. It's nice going to race and knowing what the rules and procedures are when you get there.

Plus Fastrack does a real good job with their purses for touring races. Makes it worth while to go to them.

Like I said before me and a few more cars would be happy to race at Clary's, Fayetteville, and Dublin.

I know this will kill JH, but a couple of his pride Super drivers will have a crate car next season too.

[DirtZilla13]

Crates are a little slow. Kind of like the old sportsman class at DMS but they put on a heck of a show

[jhofficial]

I love Fastrak sanctioning. I have ran at 13 different tracks this year, and besides 311 all 12 other tracks have had the same rules. It's nice going to race and knowing what the rules and procedures are when you get there.

Plus Fastrack does a real good job with their purses for touring races. Makes it worth while to go to them.

Like I said before me and a few more cars would be happy to race at Clary's, Fayetteville, and Dublin.

I know this will kill JH, but a couple of his pride Super drivers will have a crate car next season too.

I may get me one of them there crates LOL:insane:

[gb81racing]

I may get me one of them there crates LOL:insane:
you getting a crate car. huh. you are anti crate. lol i cant believe you mentioned crates and you getting one in the same sentence. lmao

[w1ck3d0n3l0st]

He must still be sleepin from where he got in to late yesterday mornin.LOL

[jhofficial]

It might be all i can afford:smiley_593::blue18::wings_O_o::wave:

[gb81racing]

It might be all i can afford:smiley_593::blue18::wings_O_o::wave:
so now you wanna race after getting in that car the other week at clarys? your hooked now aint you.

[HighMaintenance]

WWW.FASTRAKRACING.COM

[wesleycogdell]

id love to see a class that guys can go anywhere and be competative. i think it would really boost local racing.

[C4racin]

Would be great to have one at Fayetteville where it would be centrally located for teams. Then teams could come from the coast, south and north on I-95 and west of Fayetteville.

JMO C4

[rb]

id love to see a class that guys can go anywhere and be competative. i think it would really boost local racing.

I agree Wesley. The more I learn about dirt racing in general, and based on what I see and read about racing here in NC, the more I believe that more consistency is necessary across the board. We have several tracks withing a few hours of each other here in eastern NC. I recall a thread earlier this season about the Isles and why they couldn't run at CLR when Clary's had a weekend off. That's just absolutely nuts. NUTS. :smile:

[rb]

Oh... and what are the tracks doing to help with this now that their seasons are over? My guess? Absolutely NOTHING. Someone prove me wrong.

[pabandit]

Fastrack Is A Good Deal,especially For Those Tracks Struggling With Low Car Counts In The Open Late Model & Modified Classes.

[DelmarBanned]

Will never happen in Delmar… Charlie tires, Charlie shocks, Charlie gas. Best yet would be Charlie attitude and social understanding. Stan Lester would never put up with Charlie. That’s unfortunate for Delmar fans… but maybe GT will get new life! Virginia motor speedway won’t be adding crates in any near future nor will Hagerstown. Looks good for tracks like Potomac in 2008. Pennsylvania has a fantastic FASTRAK schedule for 2008. Here is some good FASTRAK information for the lower shore. Leave Friday morning around 10 am and arrive before 6pm in Conneaut PA. It’s an eight hour drive if you drive like my ex-wife or 6.5 hours if you can keep up with me. This track is Raceway7 and it all starts around 7:30pm Friday night FASTRAK style. I think if I remember correct they paid $250.00 for tenth place here. That’s what Delmar pays for 1st place. Then you get a room and rest well because Saturday night starts 30 minutes earlier and your FASTRACK choice track would be Mercer unless Pittsburg Pennsylvania Motor Speedway or McKean County Raceway was running a FASTRAK touring show that pays bigger bucks. Then head on back to that same motel room and rest hard again folks because FASTRAK style in Pennsylvania means you got racing Sunday night as well. Sunday morning after that all needed bob’s big boy breakfast… start that trailer north another 20 miles to Tri-City Raceway for these people start the party early here and carry it to post time. So if you just go one weekend a month folks you can race three times in one trip. Raceway 7 offers $50 bucks tow money and so did Mercer. I have had one track rained out on Saturday and drove 45 miles to another and raced. This kind of racing will make it to the lower shore… soon as we get a worthwhile promoter!

[Racerchaser]

Why should Charlie change anything. It has worked for him for almost 40 years now. His crate car count is about 18 to 22 cars on almost any given night, As far as the purses go "If it works for him, why fix it. They keep coming back each week.

Fastrak rules
TIRES
Tire rules will be announced per region.
Touring Series: Goodyear G50, G45.
No grooving or siping
Goodyear G60-70 optional at some tracks. Right Rear Only. ( For safety purposes on harder tracks). Announced in advance
Weekly sanctioned tracks reserve the right to run their tire rule for weekly sanctioned events.
Tires will be checked by officials at any time. Must meet minimum requirements.
Top three finishers will be checked “hot” after main event on front straight.
Tires may be marked at discretion of Series. Re: paint marks or other means of identification.
Tires may be confiscated by Series at anytime (For checking numbers versus spec and also for other conditions). Tires will be returned to Competitor if found legal.
Tires may be checked by independent lab.
Competitor may be required to break down tire at Post Race tech for inspection.
Tires will be checked by various methods for treating.
Any tire by any manufacturer that is found to be a compound other than stamped will be barred from any events now and in the future.
*Fastrak reserves the right to alter tire rules from the standpoint of “fairness of competition and local track contracts.


thats 2 set of tires, plus to run a regular show and another set for the weekly race, and probably another tire for every different track you go to.



If you run a series you run a series, If you run a certain track thats fine too, but you can't run every track around the country with out buying the track tire, ask Earl Pearson jr.





FUEL
May be checked at events! No oxygen additives allowed.
Methanol not allowed.
National Championship- Sunoco sells the fuel at each event. Must come to ALL Grand National Events with empty fuel cell. Fuel will be tested during the Grand Nationals. If fuel checks wrong you will be disqualified for entire Grand Nationals. Loss of all National points.









Then you say travel to PA. Have you forgotten that crate racing is for the beginner and they don't have alot of money to start with. I've made that pull to Pitt' and Bedford and McKean and Lernersville and that is a long pull. $50.00 bucks tow money that won't even pay for fuel to get to the Bay Bridge. 50 bucks, are you for real.







SO WHATS YOUR POINT OUTSIDE YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CHARLIE.

[DelmarBanned]

FASTRAK pays more now than most know. willing to bet you they have a half million points fund before 2010. expected to be well into the 300,000 mark for 2008 and was 250,000 2007. with 6 tracks within 60 minutes of each other... you make the trip and more times than not one of the big six has a $10,000 race. yes, i know that hurts them guys buying $40,000 motors when you can spend less than ten thousand and set it up right to run for ten thousand dollar races. willing to make another bet saying FASTRAK will have eight or ten $10,000 races in 2008. if you do nothing but hit them... you had a fun year. so i will make that pull to PA for a bit more than $50 bucks!Why should Charlie change anything. It has worked for him for almost 40 years now. His crate car count is about 18 to 22 cars on almost any given night, As far as the purses go "If it works for him, why fix it. They keep coming back each week.

Fastrak rules
TIRES
Tire rules will be announced per region.
Touring Series: Goodyear G50, G45.
No grooving or siping
Goodyear G60-70 optional at some tracks. Right Rear Only. ( For safety purposes on harder tracks). Announced in advance
Weekly sanctioned tracks reserve the right to run their tire rule for weekly sanctioned events.
Tires will be checked by officials at any time. Must meet minimum requirements.
Top three finishers will be checked “hot” after main event on front straight.
Tires may be marked at discretion of Series. Re: paint marks or other means of identification.
Tires may be confiscated by Series at anytime (For checking numbers versus spec and also for other conditions). Tires will be returned to Competitor if found legal.
Tires may be checked by independent lab.
Competitor may be required to break down tire at Post Race tech for inspection.
Tires will be checked by various methods for treating.
Any tire by any manufacturer that is found to be a compound other than stamped will be barred from any events now and in the future.
*Fastrak reserves the right to alter tire rules from the standpoint of “fairness of competition and local track contracts.


thats 2 set of tires, plus to run a regular show and another set for the weekly race, and probably another tire for every different track you go to.



If you run a series you run a series, If you run a certain track thats fine too, but you can't run every track around the country with out buying the track tire, ask Earl Pearson jr.





FUEL
May be checked at events! No oxygen additives allowed.
Methanol not allowed.
National Championship- Sunoco sells the fuel at each event. Must come to ALL Grand National Events with empty fuel cell. Fuel will be tested during the Grand Nationals. If fuel checks wrong you will be disqualified for entire Grand Nationals. Loss of all National points.









Then you say travel to PA. Have you forgotten that crate racing is for the beginner and they don't have alot of money to start with. I've made that pull to Pitt' and Bedford and McKean and Lernersville and that is a long pull. $50.00 bucks tow money that won't even pay for fuel to get to the Bay Bridge. 50 bucks, are you for real.







SO WHATS YOUR POINT OUTSIDE YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH CHARLIE.

[pabandit]

charlie cathell is one of the promoters that has made the crate engine program a success along with his headling classes. people may not agree with his methods but he still makes it work his way,

[bleweyez19]

I agree would love to see fastrax at fayetteville don't think it will happen though anytime in the near fut.

[MysteryRaceCars]

I am surprised that it has taken this long to take root in the southeast. I would bet that in less than 5 years from today, Crate Racing will be the most popular form of dirt racing in all of the United States!

[steelkiwi75]

it's not the southeast , it's eastern nc. seems like we're always the last to accept change.

[rockinrobselle1]

As far as Delmar De goes why would Charlie want to change to a sanction when he's got a full field of crate mods and LM'S...The only thing bad that I see is they can't run nowheres else..Bring in a sanction and it 's just gonna cost more across the board..Why change a good thing???Smart man he is...ROB

[91JTFAN]

I am not a crate fan ... :topicsign:

[jhofficial]

I am not a crate fan ... :topicsign:

Glad to see someone else around here thanks like me!!!!!!!! :takebath:

[MysteryRaceCars]

Glad to see someone else around here thanks like me!!!!!!!! :takebath:
"Misery loves company"


http://web.mac.com/arnold_zwicky/ZippyDenial.jpg

[jojoracer]

Why not combind it with the Crate topic
call it Fastrack Crates and related???
Have all FT info and people can talk about
all types of crate issues ( just a though..)

[CBP#88]

FASTTRACKS WOULD BE NICE AROUND HERE:icon_agreed:

[Dirtfan_21]

any other voters out there?

[HighMaintenance]

I`d be in favor of somebody learning to

S P E L L FASTRAK

then look at

www.fastrakracing.com

and learn a little more about it.




And THEN...keep my EARS open...

[racinMike69]

As a fan, it's hard to beat the SuperLates' speed and lifting front wheels. Much more exciting than most pavement racing. But I don't have to have pure speed to enjoy a race -- a bunch of cars that trade places back and forth is a lot of fun too. If the Crates are more affordable and that translates to more cars in the field, then maybe the racing will get better too. If Fastrak is able to attract more cars due to purses and consistent rules, even better! Cars like these are very popular in other parts of the country, so there must be something to them. As a racer with aspirations of owning a SuperLate some day, the Crates look like a good step in that direction (with Fastrak a good way to begin touring). So yes yes yes, I'd love to see tracks supporting that sanction around here!

[JEDC94]

No, Crate Lates aren't as much fun as the superlates are. They don't carry the front wheels, they aren't as fast around the track, and tend to have bunched up fields and lots of wrecks because of that.

But, Crate Lates make sense to me as a good form of grassroots racing. They are cheap, fairly easy to maintain, and because of all of that, they can draw big fields. They give the little guy a chance to be a rock star, sorta, by getting to own a late model.

And, from a promoters' standpoint, because they are cheap, they don't require a huge purse to draw them in to race.

As a racer, I look at them as a class i can someday run in. Sell my old Monte Carlo pure stock, get a used 4-link roller and stick a 602 in it and go play with the bigger boys.

Yes, they aren't always a ton of fun to watch because they are slow. Lets face it, the 602 is about the equivalent to a luke-warm pure stock engine with a big carb on top.

But, you can get some good racing going because the guys behind the wheels have to be good drivers to get around cars that are equally as powerful as they are. And, I think some good side by side racing makes for as good a show as watching the superlates have their horsepower battles.

So, all in all, I guess Im a fan of having them as a weekly supporting class and as an occasional big-race feature, provided there is a decent enough purse to draw in more than just the weekly guys, but I'm not sure they are a suitable replacement for the superlates, or even the steel heads.

[rb]

Well, with the schedules starting to come out, it looks like we won't be seeing a crate series at any of the eastern NC tracks in 2008... or did I miss something?

[Pretender]

No, Crate Lates aren't as much fun as the superlates are. They don't carry the front wheels, they aren't as fast around the track,

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s122/CrateRacers/SPEBFF-016.jpg?t=1199918541

[Red Dust]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s122/CrateRacers/SPEBFF-016.jpg?t=1199918541


might be wrong, but it looks like the left front is jacked up. what do i know though:icon_rofl:

[Redclay Rebel]

Although I am a super late model fan, the crates are getting better and I'd rather go see a crate show than nothing at all. Crates are gonna take over i think, so you might as well get use to it

[DOCCALLAHAN]

you sure you dont need glasses red dust? lol

[JRhodes]

They have my support. I think they will only help weekly racing.

[Racerchaser]

No, Crate Lates aren't as much fun as the superlates are. They don't carry the front wheels, they aren't as fast around the track, and tend to have bunched up fields and lots of wrecks because of that.

But, Crate Lates make sense to me as a good form of grassroots racing. They are cheap, fairly easy to maintain, and because of all of that, they can draw big fields. They give the little guy a chance to be a rock star, sorta, by getting to own a late model.

And, from a promoters' standpoint, because they are cheap, they don't require a huge purse to draw them in to race.

As a racer, I look at them as a class i can someday run in. Sell my old Monte Carlo pure stock, get a used 4-link roller and stick a 602 in it and go play with the bigger boys.

Yes, they aren't always a ton of fun to watch because they are slow. Lets face it, the 602 is about the equivalent to a luke-warm pure stock engine with a big carb on top.

But, you can get some good racing going because the guys behind the wheels have to be good drivers to get around cars that are equally as powerful as they are. And, I think some good side by side racing makes for as good a show as watching the superlates have their horsepower battles.

So, all in all, I guess Im a fan of having them as a weekly supporting class and as an occasional big-race feature, provided there is a decent enough purse to draw in more than just the weekly guys, but I'm not sure they are a suitable replacement for the superlates, or even the steel heads.


Fastrack also runs the 604 @2400 lbs. and they around pretty good, in fact on some shorter tracks, some of the big boys are using the 604 with a weight brake when they run against the open super lates in a series like WoO or Lucas oil

[420dirtfan]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s122/CrateRacers/SPEBFF-016.jpg?t=1199918541
cant yall see da invisible jack under dat car

[Redclay Rebel]

I didn't like crates the first few times i saw them, but its the future and they are putting on better shows everywhere they race. I think if we want LM racing to survive in eastern NC tracks are going to have to add a crate class soon.