super street nationals

[MckeelJr00]

the rules page say any car with more than 370c.i. must add 100lbs so does this mean we have no cubic inch rule for this race if so this must mean run what you want including 4 barrell carbs and all if i/m reading correctly.Jerry Mckeel Jr

[WHITESMOKE52]

Yes sir ..

[jhofficial]

the rules page say any car with more than 370c.i. must add 100lbs so does this mean we have no cubic inch rule for this race if so this must mean run what you want including 4 barrell carbs and all if i/m reading correctly.Jerry Mckeel Jr

Yes sir ..

The answer as I understand it is ALL CLARYS CARS have to run under the same rules they have this whole year as posted on the website.

[kraceman99]

That's right under the rules for the SS nationals on clary's homepage it states regardless of your hometrack rules you can do a few extra things and that's one of them.

[jhofficial]

That's right under the rules for the SS nationals on clary's homepage it states regardless of your hometrack rules you can do a few extra things and that's one of them.

Maybe it does. I dont know a dayum thing about no rules:uglylol: All I know is I wish it was this weekend.:orgdrool:

[Dirtfan_21]

Maybe it does. I dont know a dayum thing about no rules:uglylol: All I know is I wish it was this weekend.:orgdrool:

:stopcop:if it was this weekend, then you wouldnt been goin to NBS

[jhofficial]

:stopcop:if it was this weekend, then you wouldnt been goin to NBS

Iam only going to NB cause Clarys is closed:wtf:

[Dirtfan_21]

Iam only going to NB cause Clarys is closed:wtf:

i know that..

[buddyislesflying11ss]

the rules page say any car with more than 370c.i. must add 100lbs so does this mean we have no cubic inch rule for this race if so this must mean run what you want including 4 barrell carbs and all if i/m reading correctly.Jerry Mckeel Jr
i think everyone is misunderstanding about the rules---you got to run your own track rules that are approve by the committee... that the track that you run for points at.... clarys car run clarys rules...hope brickmaker get everyone correct on this monday am............:19mauer:

[jhofficial]

i think everyone is misunderstanding about the rules---you got to run your own track rules that are approve by the committee... that the track that you run for points at.... clarys car run clarys rules...hope brickmaker get everyone correct on this monday am............:19mauer:

That's the way I have understood it all along. Every tracks rules are not the same, so some weight and other adjustments to their home track rules have been made to make ALL CARS as close to EQUAL as possible.

Buddy correct me if I am wrong, but you, Luke, Jerry Jr, Dan, Brad, Scott and the rest of the weekly Clary's super street's have to run by Clary's Regular season rules? Don't worry guys, now don't go telling anyone I said this, but who ever wants to come can bring em on down. But Iam gonna tell ya now a Clary's regular is gonna win that money. But it may just not be a super street car:blue7:

[kraceman99]

I think it should be allowed for you guys cause some of the out of town guys run bigger motor so let the local run it to.

[jhofficial]

I think it should be allowed for you guys cause some of the out of town guys run bigger motor so let the local run it to.

Yeah but the bigger motor cars don't run the same suspension advantages and same weight is my understanding. But like I said I have no clue what is an advantage or not.:shake: Just relying on what I keep hearing and I have trust in those that it will be a level playing field. Then you throw in the home track advantage and there you go. Clary's regular wins the national Championship:14NotWorthy:

[buddyjr11]

Its stupid for us to go changing motors. It prolly wont be but one that will change it if that. Then it wouldnt be equal. My pure stock motor is doing just fine with Super street. Heck theres prolly some Super Street guys that are running em anyway trying to keep up.

[loosechange07]

Its stupid for us to go changing motors. It prolly wont be but one that will change it if that. Then it wouldnt be equal. My pure stock motor is doing just fine with Super street. Heck theres prolly some Super Street guys that are running em anyway trying to keep up.

yeah ok:icon_blahblah:

[MckeelJr00]

i just think its stupid to let someone come from some where else and run a 406 or430 against my 358c.i. but if we can change .i build my own motors i/ll fix a 406 this week but your going to let people run big motors and bert transmissions thats not fair to us that run the clarys rules everyweek .Jerry Jr

[brickmaker]

thank you for this question. open motor was not the intention here, but we see how the wording could have been taken that way. - it has been corrected.

we have reviewed over 100 sets of rules. none of them are the same! we have to look at the whole rules package (motor, frame, suspension, heads, intake, clutch, transmission, flywheel, cam and etc) and determine first if they can be included at all. then we look at competitive advantage and disadvantage in the COMPLETE package. from that assesment we then determine a weight at which they may run. we completely understand that not every car will be the same - - but until somebody can get the rules the same at every track, this is the best that we can do!

some tracks allow larger motors with a weight penalty - we were just trying to make sure that if any of those cars came, they knew they would have to keep the extra 100 lbs.
some tracks are VERY vague on motor rules - we didn't want a surprise there either.

example - clary's allows any 2 barrel carb. maybe you want to run a 750 cfm. another track allows 4 barrel carb, but restricts them to 500 cfm. who has the advantage?

the will and will not section was created so the committee could supersede sections of home track rules.

example - VMS allows tube cars. not all of the class runs tube cars. we approved the rules for them to come - the general rules say - no tube cars. that means if you run VMS with a tube car you can't come.

buddy is correct that each car will be teched to their home track AND class rules. AGAIN, home track means we can find your name in the points standings for that track AND class. otherwise, people would be pulling rules out of their hind quarters and make this race impossible.

here is the corrected verbage:

In the interest of permitting as many competitors as possible to race for the national championship and due to the diversity of track rules and inconsistent class titles, a Competition Committee was formed to review rules from several tracks to pre-approve some track rules. If your track is not listed below, that does not mean you can not race - - it means you need to have the Competition Committee review and approve your home track rules. Every effort will be made to accommodate cars from as many tracks as possible, using weight corrections to keep the competition as equal as possible.

Home track means you (and the car you bring) are listed in their point standings as an active 2007 racing season competitor in good standing.

You may contact the Competition Committee by calling Jeff at 252-451-7813 ext 24.

Car Rules:

The following will NOT be permitted on any car, regardless of your home track rules:
No tube frames in front of the center of the rear axle, except that uni-body may be tied.
No coil over shocks or springs. No adjustable shocks.
No hydraulic or mechanical jacking devices are allowed.
No aftermarket 3 or 4 link. No J bars!

The following WILL be permitted on all cars, regardless of your home track rules:
Weight jack permitted. straight panhard bar permitted.
After market bodies permitted.
Any car with home track rules which allow (and are running) more than 370 c.i. will add 100 lbs to the below listed weight.
Bead locks on any corner. (suggested!)
Tire rule will be: MAX 10” steel wheel only, with any tire – open tire rule (suggest soft!)
Quick change rear end with any gear. (suggest 720 to 760)

NOTE:
The Competition Committee reserves the right to make correction or changes at any time, with or without notice up until the time of the Brickyard Super Street National race event.
The Competition Committee members are: Don Bowden, Jeff Wyers and James Godfrey – all employees of Nash Brick Company and reserves the right to consult or verify information with any person or resource they deem appropriate.
This is intended to serve as a guide and is not all encompassing. No warranty is expressed or implied with the use of this document. Neither Clary’s Speedway, the Competition Committee nor any Sponsors accepts any liability for the use of this document or participating in or the results of this event.

[kraceman99]

I hear no protest after the race is that true or not.I think the winner should be pulled down and checked no matter what track he's from.

[buddyjr11]

I was thinking Top 3 at that. Its alot of money on the line for something thats cheating to take away.:pop:

[Brett]

Yeah, thats what alot of tracks do. Top 5 get pulled off to the side, they pull down the top 3 cars and check certain areas, the 4th and 5th place guys have to sit there in case some one is dq'd, then you pull down the 4th place guy since he would then be in the top 3.

[Coop91]

I think this is going to be one helluva race...And with all the "speculation" of who's legal/who's not adds to it....I also hope whoever's job it will be to see who causes the cautions and who's involved in them, is on top of their game !..I can guarantee there will be many cautions and tempers flaring...Hope security/track personnel can keep things under control both on and off the track, so those of us coming to watch can see a race to talk about for a long time...

[wade61]

I think this is going to be one helluva race...And with all the "speculation" of who's legal/who's not adds to it....I also hope whoever's job it will be to see who causes the cautions and who's involved in them, is on top of their game !..I can guarantee there will be many cautions and tempers flaring...Hope security/track personnel can keep things under control both on and off the track, so those of us coming to watch can see a race to talk about for a long time...

YOU ARE 100% CORRECT ON EVERYTHING YOU SAID!!!!

[w1ck3d0n3l0st]

Oct ,13 where is most people goin to be? at the super stock V8 race of the century

[Dirtfan_21]

Oct ,13 where is most people goin to be? at the super stock V8 race of the century

u mean super street right..lol

[w1ck3d0n3l0st]

yea lol i forgot thats what it is called now.

[kraceman99]

Just got off the phone with the guy i bought my car from 4 yrs ago and we have atleast 3 riverside cars coming and he them boys don't play sound like this might get very exciting here.

[jhofficial]

Just got off the phone with the guy i bought my car from 4 yrs ago and we have atleast 3 riverside cars coming and he them boys don't play sound like this might get very exciting here.

Bring em on. I was swore to not to tell another car from that state as its not definite just yet, but we could see an invasion like never before. But my money is still on a Clary's regular picking up the BIG CHECK!!!!!!!!!

[gb81racing]

so yall got a list going yet on early entry money? well i got some news, me and my dad talked about it and if we make it through Oct 5-6 races there is now a good chance we will be making the trip with the car. we are now looking for a gear and Donations lol. but seriously we will probably be there now if nothing changes before then. now JH any help? .......

[jhofficial]

so yall got a list going yet on early entry money? well i got some news, me and my dad talked about it and if we make it through Oct 5-6 races there is now a good chance we will be making the trip with the car. we are now looking for a gear and Donations lol. but seriously we will probably be there now if nothing changes before then. now JH any help? .......


You pm me all your info that the thread ask for and I will have LOCAL RACE CHAT pre pay your entry fee. How bout that?

[rb]

so yall got a list going yet on early entry money? well i got some news, me and my dad talked about it and if we make it through Oct 5-6 races there is now a good chance we will be making the trip with the car. we are now looking for a gear and Donations lol. but seriously we will probably be there now if nothing changes before then. now JH any help? .......

That is great news. Read your PM.

[gb81racing]

i hear ya JH thanks man, ill be pm ing you in a few but rb i didnt get a pm to read???

[dreamstreaker]

the DreamStreaker will be there to try to get in the big show. I hope I do cause it will be a race of endurance and the J 13 is a very tough car. I look forward to this big race and would like to thank kelly moore for letting me have this chance and nash brick for putting on this show.

[brickburner]

Home track means you (and the car you bring) are listed in their point standings as an active 2007 racing season competitor in good standing.
damn i would love to see you run, but we can't change rules in the middle of game. we are learning for next year.

[w1ck3d0n3l0st]

so you are sayin that you can't race if you are not in points standin at a track

[gb81racing]

so you are sayin that you can't race if you are not in points standin at a track
Yea i think this is what they are saying that way a veteran driver with alot of experience in other cars such as LLM,SLM,OWM,Sportsman or some higher class cant just drop down for this one race to try to pick up the $$. like cherry picking. lol correct me if im wrong but i think this would be the reasoning.

[w1ck3d0n3l0st]

i was just makin sure rules are rules and they are stickin to them thats a good thing.