Fastrack racers beware!

[Racerchaser]

Fastrack officials are going to clamp down on the rule breakers (cheaters) at the Wytheville $10,000 to win race and the 3 race Nationals in October. Seems they are very suspecious of some cars that run at Bulls Gap, some from the Carolinas, and have got some information about some Super Late Model drivers that plan on racing for the $10,000 at Wytheville. I guess somebody is spilling the beans. It is said they will be switching ignition boxes in "chosen" cars before qualifing and before the race. It is also said the top 5 will all be taken all the way down after the race.

[jhofficial]

Fastrack officials are going to clamp down on the rule breakers (cheaters) at the Wytheville $10,000 to win race and the 3 race Nationals in October. Seems they are very suspecious of some cars that run at Bulls Gap, some from the Carolinas, and have got some information about some Super Late Model drivers that plan on racing for the $10,000 at Wytheville. I guess somebody is spilling the beans. It is said they will be switching ignition boxes in "chosen" cars before qualifing and before the race. It is also said the top 5 will all be taken all the way down after the race.

:funnypost:
Thought one of the great benfits of Crate Racing was it cut out he cheating which in turn made it more affordable for the common racer???????? Guees not huh? Just goes to show you, now matter what class you run, what motor, you better have some money cause somebody is always out there pushing. Thats why I have no race car iam broke lmao

[gb81racing]

JH your broke? i thought you had a sugar momma. LOL

[jhofficial]

JH your broke? i thought you had a sugar momma. LOL

Shhh I was trying to make apoint:lame:

[rb]

:funnypost:
Thought one of the great benfits of Crate Racing was it cut out he cheating which in turn made it more affordable for the common racer???????? Guees not huh?


I don't follow that logic. It's pretty clear that what makes it more affordable is the low cost of the engine. I don't believe it's possible to "cut out" the cheating. Some people will always find a way if that's what they want to do. I guess the crates attempt to make it more difficult.

I can't wait to see my first crate race tomorrow at Carolina Speedway. I want to see what all the controversy is about from a fans perspective. I understand that we all have our preferences, but I don't understand why you are so down on the crates. What bothers you about them? Are you worried that they will somehow replace all SLM racing? I can see where that might be a concern.

[DirtDawg]

There is no way the crates can replace all of the excitement that the supers bring.

[rb]

There is no way the crates can replace all of the excitement that the supers bring.

And I don't believe anyone here said they could.

[jhofficial]

I don't follow that logic. It's pretty clear that what makes it more affordable is the low cost of the engine. I don't believe it's possible to "cut out" the cheating. Some people will always find a way if that's what they want to do. I guess the crates attempt to make it more difficult.

I can't wait to see my first crate race tomorrow at Carolina Speedway. I want to see what all the controversy is about from a fans perspective. I understand that we all have our preferences, but I don't understand why you are so down on the crates. What bothers you about them? Are you worried that they will somehow replace all SLM racing? I can see where that might be a concern.


The two main selling points on crates are 1: The cost of the motor makes it easy for anyone toget one. The 2nd: The motor is to remain sealed and have no cheating, thus keeping the cost down as well. I may be going out a limb here and it wouldnt be the first time lol. I willing to bet you that the crate lae models running up front to tour around are NOT Illeagel crates they have more time trying to trick them than it takes to put a slm motor together.

As for you this weekend if they hot lap or heat race the supers before the crates about halfway threw the crates you will get up and make your concession stand run. But be prepared to stand in a long line, cause thats when all the regulars will be in line also :dance_guy:

[rb]

The two main selling points on crates are 1: The cost of the motor makes it easy for anyone toget one. The 2nd: The motor is to remain sealed and have no cheating, thus keeping the cost down as well. I may be going out a limb here and it wouldnt be the first time lol. I willing to bet you that the crate lae models running up front to tour around are NOT Illeagel crates they have more time trying to trick them than it takes to put a slm motor together.

As for you this weekend if they hot lap or heat race the supers before the crates about halfway threw the crates you will get up and make your concession stand run. But be prepared to stand in a long line, cause thats when all the regulars will be in line also :dance_guy:


After all that, you still haven't stated specifically why you are so down on crates. :19mauer: I understand completely what the selling points are. I *think* you are concerned that they will eventually replace the supers at the local level. Is that it?

One more question. How many crate races have you attended?

[w1ck3d0n3l0st]

That is it rbee he knows they are goin to be the next big thing,

[jhofficial]

After all that, you still haven't stated specifically why you are so down on crates. :19mauer: I understand completely what the selling points are. I *think* you are concerned that they will eventually replace the supers at the local level. Is that it?

One more question. How many crate races have you attended?

First off I have seen somewere in the neighboorhood of over 25. Ask somebody Clarys is not the only track I attend lol. Ican go ahead and tell you how the crate race will go for you tomorrow night. First 4 cars will pull away by a stright away, one of those 4 will pull out by at least 5-8 car lenths and there will be close to double diget cautuions in the middle to the pack to the back. There will no NO PASSING. You can allready hear the train leaving the station!!!So like I said make that concession stand run. That way you dont miss the other classes race including the Supers!!

Iam not affaird of anything replacing SLM's and if they do I will either have to find somewere else to go or something else to do. Acutally I think my grass needs cutting real bad with my brigs and straton crate motor.

[rb]

First off I have seen somewere in the neighboorhood of over 25. Ask somebody Clarys is not the only track I attend lol. Ican go ahead and tell you how the crate race will go for you tomorrow night. First 4 cars will pull away by a stright away, one of those 4 will pull out by at least 5-8 car lenths and there will be close to double diget cautuions in the middle to the pack to the back. There will no NO PASSING. You can allready hear the train leaving the station!!!So like I said make that concession stand run. That way you dont miss the other classes race including the Supers!!

Iam not affaird of anything replacing SLM's and if they do I will either have to find somewere else to go or something else to do. Acutally I think my grass needs cutting real bad with my brigs and straton crate motor.

I gotcha. :wings_cool: What I'm hearing you say is that the crates are NOT a competitive class. I'll take your word for it until I form my own opinion. I'm probably missing something, but why does a crate engine alone equate to no competition? I'm assuming the engines in some of the other non-super classes are pretty similar and I've seen some entertaining races in those classes.

[jhofficial]

I gotcha. :wings_cool: What I'm hearing you say is that the crates are NOT a competitive class. I'll take your word for it until I form my own opinion. I'm probably missing something, but why does a crate engine alone equate to no competition? I'm assuming the engines in some of the other non-super classes are pretty similar and I've seen some entertaining races in those classes.

If you take all the creativity away and everyone is the same it leads to nose to tale follow the leader. Most crate I say most Crate races are a crash fest because there is no separation. With out horse power how can you pass? I know its all about set up and drivers. Well there is only so much you can do with a set up to distance yourself without some horse power difference to make changes. Drivers can only do so much when everyone is the same. That's why you will see a few cars pull away out front, because either they are a better driver or they are cheating! But once they get out front they cant pass each other cause they are all the same.

I don't really have a problem with Crate Lates being an addition to a race card. But don't add them by subtracting the big dogs. There needs to be some classes were low funded people can fill their racing desire. But there also has to be a class were the best and most funded can drop that hammer on 800 horse power and make the people in the stands stand up and say dayum!!!!!!

I telling you now Newbe you will be a changed man after tomorrow night. I wish I could go as I planned and sit with you and say see I told ya.:animal85:

[Racerchaser]

You forgot one selling point that the promoters all look at John . How to people in the stands and give them a night of racing and not cost him the FARM doing it.

[jhofficial]

You forgot one selling point that the promoters all look at John . How to people in the stands and give them a night of racing and not cost him the FARM doing it.

Run Crates every week as the headliner and there wont be anyone in the stands:topicsign:

[gb81racing]

well guess ill see how the crates are myself at carolina asim going and ill let you know what i think about them

[rb]

Ican go ahead and tell you how the crate race will go for you tomorrow night. First 4 cars will pull away by a stright away, one of those 4 will pull out by at least 5-8 car lenths and there will be close to double diget cautuions in the middle to the pack to the back. There will no NO PASSING. You can allready hear the train leaving the station!!!So like I said make that concession stand run. That way you dont miss the other classes race including the Supers!!

Well, the emphasis you made on "no passing" was pretty much what I saw in the SLM race. I can't comment on the crates because I was about to pass out at 1:30am and they HADN'T STARTED YET. :confuzeld: I left.

I did see the heats for the crates and they were for the most part close together. No passing. Hell, the best passing was in the lower cost support classes. Bring on the pintos and the 'stangs!

[Red Dust]

Well, the emphasis you made on "no passing" was pretty much what I saw in the SLM race. I can't comment on the crates because I was about to pass out at 1:30am and they HADN'T STARTED YET. :confuzeld: I left.

I did see the heats for the crates and they were for the most part close together. No passing. Hell, the best passing was in the lower cost support classes. Bring on the pintos and the 'stangs!

well i think the no passing applied in all classes there saturday. it was by far the most disappointing trip i have taken this year. by the way the late models really didnt have any action. the most exciting thing was the last lap when pursley spun. crates are coming soon:EmbarassGirl:

[jhofficial]

Newbe Iam dissapointed. I thought I was gonna be able to add you to the diehard dirt fans fan club. Its very exclusive. First rule is when you make a first time trip to a new track or attend a big event at a track you have to stay until the drop of the last cherecked flag. I cant belive you broke the first rule on the first night:animal0017:

After all the talk on here the last two weeks about Crtaes you didnt stay to wath the caution filled Green White Checker finsh cause they thought if they tried to finsh the sun would have been coming up :icon_laughing4:

There are some more rules. But I will have to tell you those in private LMAO

[Red Dust]

Newbe Iam dissapointed. I thought I was gonna be able to add you to the diehard dirt fans fan club. Its very exclusive. First rule is when you make a first time trip to a new track or attend a big event at a track you have to stay until the drop of the last cherecked flag. I cant belive you broke the first rule on the first night:animal0017:

After all the talk on here the last two weeks about Crtaes you didnt stay to wath the caution filled Green White Checker finsh cause they thought if they tried to finsh the sun would have been coming up :icon_laughing4:

There are some more rules. But I will have to tell you those in private LMAO

the crates had i think 2 cautions. the SLM race was filled with cautions.

[jhofficial]

the crates had i think 2 cautions. the SLM race was filled with cautions.

Then why did I have to stay up listening to DG Stupid azz all night and then they cut the crates short?

[Red Dust]

Then why did I have to stay up listening to DG Stupid azz all night and then they cut the crates short?

well during one of the cautions it took them a while to get everything staightened out. plus it was goin on 2:30am. most of the crowd was gone. why were you staying up late to listen to the crate race anyway? are you a secret crate fan john? LOL

[Wilder4Racin]

oh boy! Ya'll dont get John started.....

[jhofficial]

well during one of the cautions it took them a while to get everything staightened out. plus it was goin on 2:30am. most of the crowd was gone. why were you staying up late to listen to the crate race anyway? are you a secret crate fan john? LOL

Part of being a memeber of the diehard dirt fans club. If theres a dirt race on the internet and you are home you listen and listen till the end!!!!!!!!!!!!:smiley_593:

[Red Dust]

Part of being a memeber of the diehard dirt fans club. If theres a dirt race on the internet and you are home you listen and listen till the end!!!!!!!!!!!!:smiley_593:


thats right.

[gb81racing]

well i think the no passing applied in all classes there saturday. it was by far the most disappointing trip i have taken this year. by the way the late models really didnt have any action. the most exciting thing was the last lap when pursley spun. crates are coming soon:EmbarassGirl:
Exactly, the crates had a closer battle for the top spot than the SLM as pursely had the field coverd till the flat on the last lap which also was the most exciting lap as it was a pretty much uneventful with no action or passing. another car only got close to pursely when they were under caution or he was lapping them. but EVERY class had NO passing in the main and made for a pretty boring and dusty night

[rb]

Newbe Iam dissapointed. I thought I was gonna be able to add you to the diehard dirt fans fan club. Its very exclusive. First rule is when you make a first time trip to a new track or attend a big event at a track you have to stay until the drop of the last cherecked flag. I cant belive you broke the first rule on the first night:animal0017:


I guess I'll have to form my own club then. It'll be for fans that have the sense to know "enough is enough". :Nana: It's quality over quantity for me.

The funny thing is that I stayed longer than most of the fans there. What I'm about to say next will probably shock you: I saw many people leave DURING THE SLM RACE! And you know what, I can hardly blame them. Don't get me wrong, there wasn't a mass exodus during the race, but it thinned out a bit. At least 10 people left within 2 rows of where I was sitting.

I'll get some coffee in me and start my review of the entire day in a new thread. :blue25:

[jojoracer]

they should do that every race 10,000 or 2,000 if your
mtr is right fix it back .. if wrong (depending on what)
barred for 1 year caught 2 times bared for life ....
what's wrong with that..?? hey jhoffical crate racers
are punished for driver mistakes. and if you watch
racing for passing then u cars might your thing
(just kidding) supers are fast and flashey and loud
thats the real reason... I've seen some pretty boring
super shows.. racing is racing crates are not slow
usually the fastest crate could make the super show...
they're just too expencive I mean 5,000 for an engine
thats good for 4 or 5 races I cant affored that
but I can build a LLM and race it for about 1/3 that
if top class was a 602 I might try it. 2,800 is still
too high for my blood...I'm poor but love to race???

hey has any heared about A fasttrak steel head class
is there going to be one next year or what. Or is it a roumer
I heard.. just wondering>>>>

[jhofficial]

there were seventy some odd Supers last week at bulls gap. The crate ploe winner was over a second slower than about 50 of the supers I made a mental note when listening on dirtvision. That was only a little bull ring, now just imagine on a big half mile. Crates are more than welcome to come try there luck at Clarys. Now Iam not answering anymore post about crates for at least the weekend LMAO. As I have said before I have no problem with crates as an extra division, but not a replacement for SLM. Thats my whole agruement in a nut shell and theres no reason for anyone to try and sell me otherwise cause I aint buying

[Racerchaser]

they should do that every race 10,000 or 2,000 if your
mtr is right fix it back .. if wrong (depending on what)
barred for 1 year caught 2 times bared for life ....
what's wrong with that..?? hey jhoffical crate racers
are punished for driver mistakes. and if you watch
racing for passing then u cars might your thing
(just kidding) supers are fast and flashey and loud
thats the real reason... I've seen some pretty boring
super shows.. racing is racing crates are not slow
usually the fastest crate could make the super show...
they're just too expencive I mean 5,000 for an engine
thats good for 4 or 5 races I cant affored that
but I can build a LLM and race it for about 1/3 that
if top class was a 602 I might try it. 2,800 is still
too high for my blood...I'm poor but love to race???

hey has any heared about A fasttrak steel head class
is there going to be one next year or what. Or is it a roumer
I heard.. just wondering>>>>


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[insanegraphics]

there were seventy some odd Supers last week at bulls gap. The crate ploe winner was over a second slower than about 50 of the supers I made a mental note when listening on dirtvision. That was only a little bull ring, now just imagine on a big half mile. Crates are more than welcome to come try there luck at Clarys. Now Iam not answering anymore post about crates for at least the weekend LMAO. As I have said before I have no problem with crates as an extra division, but not a replacement for SLM. Thats my whole agruement in a nut shell and theres no reason for anyone to try and sell me otherwise cause I aint buying



I'm not trying to argue with anyone, but I do have an comment. The crates were a second slower at Bulls Gap, but the crates weighed 50lbs more than the supers did. Give the crates about 150lbs weigh break and see how much slower they are then.

[rb]

I'm not trying to argue with anyone, but I do have an comment. The crates were a second slower at Bulls Gap, but the crates weighed 50lbs more than the supers did. Give the crates about 150lbs weigh break and see how much slower they are then.

Interesting point...

[L8models]

:crates_rule:

[jhofficial]

Why do they need a weight break/ Are they special?:wings_search::wings_search:

[DirtDawg]

They would need more than 150 lb weight break to make up for a 450 HP difference. Think about it. Do you notice a performance difference in your street car when somebody is riding with you than when your by yourself? I sure dont!

[bleweyez19]

jeez! so this is where all the good convo is! HAHA ishould have looked around a little bit more than just in the fay/dublin forums...

[rb]

jeez! so this is where all the good convo is! HAHA ishould have looked around a little bit more than just in the fay/dublin forums...

See that "... Unread Posts since your last visit." in the upper right-hand corner? That'll keep you on top of the action. :dance_guy:

[insanegraphics]

Why do they need a weight break/ Are they special?:wings_search::wings_search:


Clary's Speedway Super Late Model Rules
Engine And Weight

Engine location: #1 spark plug set back 6 inches from center of the ball joints, ½ inch tolerance.
Must have weight decal on side of car.
All cars with steel block and steel head must weigh 2200 lbs.
All cars with steel block and aluminum head must weigh 2250 lbs.
All aluminum motors must weigh 2300 lbs.
Why do the steel block and steel head cars need a weight break? Are they special?

No really, like at 311 the crates get a 150lb weight break against the limited lates and are competative.

[Pretender]

Why do they need a weight break/ Are they special?:wings_search::wings_search:


Hell Yeah! They're Special!!!

:wave: