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BOTTOM_DWELLER
07-30-2007, 11:07 PM
Somebody please pic a topic we can discuss, way to quiet for it to be the middle of race season. Lets get something stirred up!:furious3:

dirtslider
07-30-2007, 11:57 PM
ok, how about.....

I'd rather watch Sprints on DIRT than Late models on pavement any day.:exactly:

and that's the bottom line...:dirt_race:

BOTTOM_DWELLER
07-31-2007, 12:28 AM
Thats an interesting start. How bout midgets or mini-sprints on either. What about Legands?

AEB_Racing
07-31-2007, 02:58 AM
ok, how about.....

I'd rather watch Sprints on DIRT than Late models on pavement any day.:exactly:

and that's the bottom line...:dirt_race:
as long as you're watching them at fork mountain.:dirt_race:

fireball
07-31-2007, 10:23 AM
Did anyone see the show last night with French? He had some good calls, especially at the end when lonnie tatum called to say he was working with Doc Callahan, and that he would also have the big giveaway truck at FMR on August 25. Lonnie is a big supporter of the track and I hope he can get the late model deal worked out with Doc..

BOTTOM_DWELLER
07-31-2007, 04:36 PM
Looks like some people are putting forth alot of effort to really make this deal work.

mike69
07-31-2007, 05:00 PM
if theres a late model race there will be at least 2 more people there than last time. i would love to see them at olr again.

DOCCALLAHAN
07-31-2007, 06:10 PM
as soon as i talk to french again we will all know what is hapn i talked to lonnie on sat and he is a big help and hopefully i can get french to work out the purse like we need it to be and fill the stands with people so that we can all have another good place to run close by im 75 miles from the track and 79 miles from rtr but i would rather run those two places if possible and run other tracks as i can i like traveling and racing any track out there always making new friends and racers im supposed to be up at the tv station next monday and hopeflly have some good news about the race so we can have plenty of time to advertise it

dirtslider
07-31-2007, 06:34 PM
as long as you're watching them at fork mountain.:dirt_race:


you got that right!

have you guys been racing anywhere else lately since olr/fm has been closed?

AEB_Racing
07-31-2007, 11:22 PM
you got that right!

have you guys been racing anywhere else lately since olr/fm has been closed?
no, we raced at callaway last year but nobody wants to go there and watch eddie young win every race. we're thinking about running at rolling thunder on fridays when they open.

BOTTOM_DWELLER
07-31-2007, 11:46 PM
Doesnt sound like a bad idea ,possibly being able to run dirt Fri.&Sat. Hope your there and alot others on the 25th.

AEB_Racing
07-31-2007, 11:49 PM
if we come, we'll probably bring the #3, #50, and #7 u-cars. my husband drives the #49 u-car. you're right, it would be a lot of fun going racing on fri. and sat. nights. my kids love watching daddy race.

24Eckert
07-31-2007, 11:56 PM
as they dirt is for racing and ashpalt is to get u there :dance_guy:

AEB_Racing
08-01-2007, 12:01 AM
as they dirt is for racing and ashpalt is to get u there :dance_guy:
:icon_agreed:this is his first year he's ever raced on dirt and he said he loves it compared to ashphalt racing.

AEB_Racing
08-01-2007, 12:02 AM
as they dirt is for racing and ashpalt is to get u there :dance_guy:
this is his first year racing on dirt and he said he loves it compared to ashpalt racing.

BOTTOM_DWELLER
08-01-2007, 12:38 AM
Sounds like hes a very wise man!

fireball
08-01-2007, 01:45 AM
I hope everyone is getting there All American cars ready for August 25th. I heard today that there will probably be a late model show that night too. There's 10 cars up here that want to run and about 10 or so more out of N. Carolina that are coming up. Hopefully Doc can confirm this in the next day or two for us. Sounds like it could be a wild night at FMR on the 25th.:no34:

durtyjohnny35
08-01-2007, 10:11 AM
this is his first year racing on dirt and he said he loves it compared to ashpalt racing.
GOT DIRT??? LET'S RACE! 100% natural, and completely organic...

BOTTOM_DWELLER
08-01-2007, 10:20 PM
Durty where you been? Always enjoy your views at matters at hand. Speak up dont be shy. I havent seen anything on here in a couple days from your favorite advacery!

durtyjohnny35
08-03-2007, 10:40 AM
Durty where you been? Always enjoy your views at matters at hand. Speak up dont be shy. I havent seen anything on here in a couple days from your favorite advacery!
Hey B_ Dweller! Been kinda lost these last couple of weeks... If you know what I mean. Between computer problems, drinking beer, and eating seafood, not much else going on. LOL! Seems no matter how much beer I drink, I can't erase from my mind the image of the honeymooners buying matching thongs! Thanks for the visual!:slap: Sounds like "good" noise from FMR.

mafia racing
08-04-2007, 10:59 PM
heard that fmr is for sale?

dirtracer76
08-05-2007, 02:26 PM
i work all the time so i dont do much of nothing rigt now

RACEFACE
08-05-2007, 07:01 PM
heard that fmr is for sale?


I personally have not heard that......but if its true its going to be hard to sale since Rolling Thunder Raceway is opening a couple weeks.

fireball
08-05-2007, 10:22 PM
I wondered with only racing once a month how long it would take for someone to start a rumor like this, but take it for what it is, JUST A RUMOR!..French has said he wanted to make sure that if the local racers wanted a place to race he would provide one, and if they don't then it will be alot different next year. The racing depends solely on the cars and spectators at this point. If the cars and spectators don't support local racing then it will be another kind of racing next year, period.. Just letting everyone know what French has said all year in the drivers meetings.

jbal59
08-06-2007, 06:55 PM
"another kind of racing next year". So far this year us spectators haven't had much oppurtunity to show our support. Care to speculate on what 'another kind of racing' might be?

fireball
08-07-2007, 12:27 AM
heard that fmr is for sale?

French said he's planted too much grass seed to sell the track now! But hey it's all paid for so if he wants to turn the cows out to eat it's up to him, huh? But if the local racers want a track here they should show him on the 25th that they are serious..

RACEFACE
08-07-2007, 01:22 AM
I wondered with only racing once a month how long it would take for someone to start a rumor like this, but take it for what it is, JUST A RUMOR!..French has said he wanted to make sure that if the local racers wanted a place to race he would provide one, and if they don't then it will be alot different next year. The racing depends solely on the cars and spectators at this point. If the cars and spectators don't support local racing then it will be another kind of racing next year, period.. Just letting everyone know what French has said all year in the drivers meetings.

Hey Fireball......why is it that the Fans and Drivers not supporting FMR always get thrown up ???? I really do not think thats fair to say.....we have all been down this road before and it seems like were headed there again.....Do you or French think that everyone should just quit doing whatever it is we do on Saturday nights just to come to FMR.......Don't get me wrong NO ONE wants to see this track do bad or close.....least thats my opinion as a fan.....But lets just say alot of us who used to attend OLR on Friday nights(as drivers or fans) over the past several years maybe raced or attended another tracks around the area, hung out at the lake, or whatever on Saturday nights. Why should we just all of a sudden quit doing what we have done for years just because FMR switches their race day to Saturday......I do not mean one bit of negativity in what I said. Just hearing it the way you say it makes me feel like the drivers and fans owe FMR something and that we should up and drop what we are doing on Saturday nights and come to FMR......It all comes down to French and FMR marketing itself for whats best for them, their drivers and the fans. I don't know if you work at the track or are a big fan of it.....but the bottom line is something just hasn't worked so far this year.

fireball
08-07-2007, 01:32 AM
Raceface, i keep saying that because everyone is bellyachin about the racing being on Sat. nites now and not Fri.. Well evidently Fri. didn't work either or the other owners wouldn't have closed down, huh? The drivers and fans (such as myself) have to choose where we go to watch or race, and I'm not saying anyone owes French, but I am saying that when OLR closed last year halfway through the season everyone said they wished someone would open it back up. Well, it's opened back up and the car counts haven't shown that people really want to race there, and the fan count has decreased also. The track is perfect, and yet we'll complain about the day it's open until it aint, then what? The cycle never stops, so why not support it while we can?

RACEFACE
08-07-2007, 01:52 AM
Because for me personally I'm going to keep going to FCS every Saturday night like I have for 25 plus years; as well as the 15 or 20 drivers that are racing there this year and the hundreds of OLR's old fans,as I did rarely never missed a Friday night race when there was racing at the OAK back then......As far as what Mike did to screw things up last year.....well that what it is last year.......Look at all the years Bethel ran the track and tell me it was not a sucess for all those years.......With all of the other tracks(6-7) running on Saturday nights in our are and maybe 1 or 2 racing on Friday nights why do you think the Nesters up and out of the blue this year built Rolling Thunder and chose Friday nights??? They could have easily raced Saturday nights....They saw the need - opportunity for a Friday night event.....and when its a huge sucess from day one will it be blamed on everyone hating FMR ??? I surely hope not.....its not the case.....It all comes down to the providing something when the fans - drivers can be there.......I hope on the 25th that FMR has a ton of sucess......I really mean it !!!!!

BOTTOM_DWELLER
08-07-2007, 04:34 PM
Face how many more times you think well have to go down this road? Is it your turn to kick the dead horse or mine? Maybe DJ35 can help!

ridnaround
08-07-2007, 06:20 PM
I think that all the talking needs to stop. Pay the purses and open the doors. You got to give it a fair everyweek chance. And stay off the Local TV. That just gives people something to talk bad about.

Poorboy44
08-07-2007, 06:21 PM
Hey guys like they said quit beating a dead horse it's the local fans and the local drivers fault for all the mess that is going on there and all that is wrong so let it go and take the blame.

RACEFACE
08-07-2007, 07:11 PM
Face how many more times you think well have to go down this road? Is it your turn to kick the dead horse or mine? Maybe DJ35 can help!

Hey Bottom Dweller.....go read way above my post and you will see its Fireball that opened up this can of worms all over again in post #24 by blaming the demise of FMR on the spectators.....All though I may have read into it wrong.....hey may not have been refering to us longtime fans of the track.....maybe he meant if the "spectators don't support local racing then it will be another kind of racing next year, period. " He may have been refering to you Sprint Guys not bringing enough fans down from northern Va to support the track, I appologize if my first repsonse was wrong. Just 10 more days till the official Grand Opening at Rolling Thunder Raceway......where there will be racing every Friday night from now till it gets too cold.....Gary and Alesia definately know how to "Git R Done"

racerwife
08-07-2007, 07:19 PM
If RTR don't have any better car count than FMR did they will be racing less and paying less too after a couple weeks, any bets on that?

RACEFACE
08-07-2007, 09:49 PM
I'm betting they are going to be a hugh success......the area they are in will be able to pull cars from Wythe Raceway,out of the Carolinas(especially the ones who drove at Friendship before it was paved) and the ones who still have dirt cars from the Oak....They will draw fans from all of those areas also....Don't know the people (The Nesters) but they got their race night for this area.... And from what I can tell so far from their post on Local Race Chat they really care about their fans......enough they actually post things on here themselves.

BOTTOM_DWELLER
08-07-2007, 10:16 PM
Face wasnt on ya dude .I know youve went over and over this how many times. Im like you wish somebody would come up with something differant.

MannyMoore
08-16-2007, 07:52 AM
BD -- why is there only 1 or 2 races every month at FMR? How can the track survive that? What is it with this rolling thunder track? Racing won't get any better with this crap going on.

racinMike69
08-17-2007, 01:03 AM
Business owners are doomed to fail when they start blaming their lack of success on their customers. It's backwards thinking! Businessmen need to draw customers by making them WANT to patronize their business, not by trying to guilt them into supporting them. If you run a race track, your customers are both fans and racers -- you charge both of them to get into the track. Only a very few racers have any chance at leaving with more money than they brought, and they all work darn hard at and away from your track. If you're not the only track around then you need to work even harder to lure fans and racers to your business -- you make it convenient and enjoyable for them rather than for yourself. It's sad to see good tracks struggle and close but while the economy is down businessmen must expect lean times and work even harder to win any business they can get. So when I hear comments like "it's his track and he can do whatever he wants with it" and " if the local racers wanted a place to race he would provide one, and if they don't then it will be alot different next year. The racing depends solely on the cars and spectators at this point" then this businessman is getting what he deserves -- empty pits and stands.
>Gary

RACEFACE
08-17-2007, 05:15 PM
Business owners are doomed to fail when they start blaming their lack of success on their customers. It's backwards thinking! Businessmen need to draw customers by making them WANT to patronize their business, not by trying to guilt them into supporting them. If you run a race track, your customers are both fans and racers -- you charge both of them to get into the track. Only a very few racers have any chance at leaving with more money than they brought, and they all work darn hard at and away from your track. If you're not the only track around then you need to work even harder to lure fans and racers to your business -- you make it convenient and enjoyable for them rather than for yourself. It's sad to see good tracks struggle and close but while the economy is down businessmen must expect lean times and work even harder to win any business they can get. So when I hear comments like "it's his track and he can do whatever he wants with it" and " if the local racers wanted a place to race he would provide one, and if they don't then it will be alot different next year. The racing depends solely on the cars and spectators at this point" then this businessman is getting what he deserves -- empty pits and stands.
>Gary

Very well stated Gary.......Joe

mike69
08-18-2007, 10:12 AM
Business owners are doomed to fail when they start blaming their lack of success on their customers. It's backwards thinking! Businessmen need to draw customers by making them WANT to patronize their business, not by trying to guilt them into supporting them. If you run a race track, your customers are both fans and racers -- you charge both of them to get into the track. Only a very few racers have any chance at leaving with more money than they brought, and they all work darn hard at and away from your track. If you're not the only track around then you need to work even harder to lure fans and racers to your business -- you make it convenient and enjoyable for them rather than for yourself. It's sad to see good tracks struggle and close but while the economy is down businessmen must expect lean times and work even harder to win any business they can get. So when I hear comments like "it's his track and he can do whatever he wants with it" and " if the local racers wanted a place to race he would provide one, and if they don't then it will be alot different next year. The racing depends solely on the cars and spectators at this point" then this businessman is getting what he deserves -- empty pits and stands.
>Gary
thats exactly what i've been saying since this whole thing started. the sole responsibility for the success of the track lies completely with the owner, promotor.

and most people when given an ultimatum support my track or i'll plant grass on it. they won't be there to support it. so you better get the seed and cows ready cause your gonna need it.

thats the reason i ride right past the place at least another hour the see a race! i would love to go to olr again,but i won't pay my hard earned money to watch a 2 or 3 car race in every class. execpt u-cars that is but than thats not my idea of a real race anyway.

racerwife
08-18-2007, 04:12 PM
French himself has never said that he blames anyone. However, he has said that he can no longer afford to payout a huge purse that many of the classes are used to from past years because there is no revenue coming in = car count and fans. French has suffered a loss every time the gates have been open at the track, and as a business owner, I'm sure he expected that, but he did expect the spectators to pick up as well as the drivers. FMR running on Saturday night is beneficial to many from what I have heard, drivers and fans alike. For those who have a Saturday night routine already, no don't break it just for FMR but don't complain about what FMR is doing either. This is his track, the race nite is the only thing that he isn't willing to back down or give a little on, so, give it a break. Nobody is blaming anybody, but we really haven't shown French the hospitality of Southerners in this area at all, and we really haven't shown our appreciation for what he has done to the track and how he respects our drivers enough to pay them more than what he originally said, every race. There's no dust, and there are great concession and gate prices;these are the gripes that the fans originally had, the rules were enforced drivers (some) fussed, so now there's a limited rules race, so show him some appreciation for the effort, if you don't go, fine, just stop bashing the track, that would say enough. JMO

mike69
08-18-2007, 06:50 PM
racerwife,

believe me i'm not bashing anyone just stating fact. there is a direct Correlation between low purses and low fan count. very small purses equals very cars which intern leads to very few fans. its sort of a vicious circle.

i still say if the purses where good the cars would come. i mean doc had some sponsors for a late model race but french said it wasn't good enough. looks like to me maybe he could bite the bullet and pay the purse and see what happens. if he never tries he'll never know.

but a late model race will bring the rans that much is for sure.

RACEFACE
08-18-2007, 09:28 PM
Very well stated once again Mike69.......and adding to what he said with no negativity implied the night that race is held on is as just as important to both fans and drivers......This was easily proven at Rolling Thunder Raceway last night.....the place was packed with a ton of fans as well with plenty of competition......It all goes back to the supply and demand therory.....There was no tracks in our direct vacinity racing on Fridays......Thats what made Oak Level special for many years....It had no competition which allowed both Drivers and Fans come from different tracks.......now in saying that because of everything French is involved in which allowed him to only to be able race on Saturdays is the exact opposite of what this area needed......that doesn't make him a bad man or FMR a bad track......IF it had been the exact opposite in this area and all of the other tracks ran on Friday nights and no one ran on Saturday nights except FMR then FMR would be would have boomed. I hope what I said made sense..... Its just principles of business......any business. Good Luck to everyone on the 25th....Joe

DOCCALLAHAN
08-19-2007, 08:40 PM
It Doesnt Really Matter What Nite French Races On I Beleive That If He Was Able To Put On A Good Crate Race And Late Model Race Then The Fans And Racers Would Both Come Out If You Really Look At It 311 Cancelled Because Of No Help To Work The Track If French Could Put On A Good Show That Payed A Decent Purse He Could Get All Of 311 Cars But He Has Told Me He Doesnt Have The Money To Pay Out That Kind Of Purse I Was Trying To Get An 800 To Win Race With Total Purse Of 3000 With Only 10 Cars But He Is Not Gonna Pay That He Told Me That Himself I Also Had Some People Willing To Help On The Purse But He Does Not Wanna Pay Out Most Of The Money To The Top Guys He Pays His Sprints 100 Win Or Last Ive Talked To Several Drivers And They Were Willing To Come Race For 800 To Win But Not Less Than That French Says That We Have Overpriced Ourselves But I Dont Think So It Takes Money To Get The Cars To Any Race Track I Myself Am Not The Top Driver And Just Like Racing But Im Not Racing For 100 Bucks Even Tho I Might Make That On Some Finishes Im Going For Better Money When I Race Just Sometimes Doesnt Work Out That Good For Me And Others I Know That He Doesnt Have The Funds To Payout Good Size Purses He Told Me That Himself But When You Got Sponsors Willing To Pay It For You I Dont See 3what The Problem Is I Talked To A Driver Friday Night And He Told Me A Man Offered To Pay The Whole Purse For The Late Models And French Turned It Down For Reason It Will Set The Standard For The Lates To Race For When You See Stands Packed Like Rolling Thunder Was Friday Night You Can Understand That People Wanna See Good Racing And Late Models Crates Or Reg Lates They Like Late Models This Is Not Sprint Car Country It Is Late Model Country Sorry Guys If I Step On Any Toes But Thats My Opinion Ivew Been Going To Races For 25yrs And Have Seen Plenty Of Stands Packed For The Late Models The Better The Money The More Cars And Fans It Brings Out Rtr Run Out Of Food Early Because They Didnt Expect The Crowd They Got And It Was Wonderful To See The Stands Packed As Well As The Pits Fmr Could Be The Same Way If He Wanted It To Cause He Will Enforce The Rules And Work The Track It Look Great The Last Race But I Will Say If Late Models Had Been There It Would Have Been Dusty But The Fans Know This They Are Going To A Dirt Track They Know What To Expect Just Look At Eldora Those Fans Bring Their Chairs And Goggles Every Time And See Somre Of The Best Racing Around But They Pack The House Also But Not For 150 To Win

dirtslider
08-19-2007, 10:08 PM
I've supported this track every race,and i don't mind watching sprints....but it seems the sprint racing is fake?Do they go 2/3 their speed all the time?

is that true?

we love the racing at this track and i won't tell my kids the sprints take turns winning because they enjoy watching them so much i don't want to ruin it for them....i've heard the rumors here and now i talked to a driver at another track & mentioned that we go to OLR most of the time...he ask me if they were still doing any racing there?....that was not a good question to hear.....we got to talking and i told him they run sprints once a month, he said those guys are gauranteed a "win" or two every year and they take turns.....this absolutely sucks if it's true....is this racing or "wastling"?

outdoors2i
08-20-2007, 08:03 AM
My thought's exactlly Doc. And I completely agree with Mike69and Raceface.

RACEFACE
08-20-2007, 08:33 PM
I'm just curious who makes the schedule at FMR ????? This Saturday night French is running what ever cars show up with limited rules on the SAME night Franklin County Speedway (15 minutes away) is running a $1,000.00 Street Stock race,The Performance All Pro Series(out of NC) The East Coast Flatheads, The Late Models,The Limited Sportmans,The Mod4's,and The Ucars.........And then someone schedules FMR's next race (Oct. 20th) the same night as 31 of the ASA Southern Modified series plus all the other divisions are running at Franklin County Speedway......looks to me you would want to race on a different weekend.....especially since the last time the ASA Mod's ran at FCS there were only about 100 fans at FMR compared to several thousand at FCS......All I can say is WOW........just don't make sense to me.....looks like you would schedule races when BIG events aren't at your neighboring competition ????

fireball
08-21-2007, 12:13 AM
FMR's schedule has been up for awhile, but it's a shame that other tracks will change to a BIG event the week before a race at FMR. Course I gota say they are entirely different as one is dirt and the other is asphalt. So, to each his own but to me dirt is alot more fun..:exactly:

outdoors2i
08-21-2007, 08:05 AM
hey fireball what other tracks have you been to this year besides FMR? If you don't check out your competion then you might get a better handle on what's happening @ your track. 100-200 fans while other local tracks average 1000-5000 fans. Evidently something is not going right!!

luvthedirt
08-21-2007, 08:51 AM
Hey outdoors,
Why would anyone consider RTR competition to FMR when they race on two different nights? Looks to me like the two tracks would put their heads together and come up with bonus points or money to run both tracks, and both would greatly benefit from that..jmo

outdoors2i
08-21-2007, 09:20 AM
yeah I agree with you completely. I know for things to pick up @FMR THEY are going to have to make some big changes. JMO

luvthedirt
08-21-2007, 09:38 AM
With RTR turning cars away because they were not running a spec tire, and not letting tube frame superstreets race, I think they may have a surprise this week from what I've heard unless they make some changes too..jmo

outdoors2i
08-21-2007, 10:00 AM
from what I've heard they are expecting MORE cars this Friday than last, which by the way the least car count was in the U-Car class with about 8 cars. I know some one on the race show last night was faulting the track but as they have put on their web site the track is a work in progress. So I look for it to only improve....jmo

luvthedirt
08-21-2007, 10:09 AM
It's probably a good thing that FMR isn't running late models. It was 10:30 before any racing started at RTR last week, and at FMR it's kept pretty tight with each race and we are outa there by 10:30 or so every race. I say keep up the good work FMR it will pay off..

RaceJunkie
08-21-2007, 10:09 AM
I have not read through this thread completely YET but what I do know is,

luvthedirt seems to have multiple personalities using fireball (http://www.localracechat.com/forums/member.php?u=3491) and racerwife (http://www.localracechat.com/forums/member.php?u=3616) and luvthedirt (http://www.localracechat.com/forums/member.php?u=4140) sharing the same computer.

My guess would be fireball and racerwife Husband and wife and luvthedirt either another family member or an attempt to beat the system.. Just all speculation here on my part but I have been told that fireball is John Manley. I will investigate it more as time permits and don't forget. This Link (http://www.localracechat.com/forums/announcement.php?f=74&a=28)

:topicsign:

outdoors2i
08-21-2007, 10:34 AM
Well imagine that!! Fmr PR man!! Wow this has sure floored me!!!

RaceJunkie
08-21-2007, 12:19 PM
Well imagine that!! Fmr PR man!! Wow this has sure floored me!!!

I'm not saying it is John Manley I'm just saying that is what I have been told for now it's only (pure speculation 3rd party info) BUT what I can tell you that I do know is fact that these three users know each other and have used the same computer..

racerwife
08-21-2007, 12:19 PM
Hi everyone. I'm John Manley's wife, Tina M. Manley. I work at FMR and talk with French and his family often. I love FMR and anyother track that treats it's drivers and fans right. I didn't know that who I was was any real concern to anyone, and I woulda said who I was if I had known. I will speak my mind in a nice manner to anyone who bashes FMR for no legitimate reason. I feel that the night that we race has no real effect on our crowd turnout and frankly, am tired of reading the posts suggesting that we change the nite. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but when I see or read information that I know is incorrect I try to post to explain. Again, these are all MY opinions, not French's or John's, MINE. I enjoy race chat, the good and the bad, and hope to continue to be able to post in the future. Hope to see everybody Saturday night at FMR. Lets Go Racing! Tina Manley

RaceJunkie
08-21-2007, 01:44 PM
Hi everyone. I'm John Manley's wife, Tina M. Manley. I work at FMR and talk with French and his family often. I love FMR and anyother track that treats it's drivers and fans right. I didn't know that who I was was any real concern to anyone, and I woulda said who I was if I had known. I will speak my mind in a nice manner to anyone who bashes FMR for no legitimate reason. I feel that the night that we race has no real effect on our crowd turnout and frankly, am tired of reading the posts suggesting that we change the nite. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but when I see or read information that I know is incorrect I try to post to explain. Again, these are all MY opinions, not French's or John's, MINE. I enjoy race chat, the good and the bad, and hope to continue to be able to post in the future. Hope to see everybody Saturday night at FMR. Lets Go Racing! Tina Manley

Thanks Tina :05Cool:

LCRFORD
08-21-2007, 06:13 PM
Fmr Is The Best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

RACEFACE
08-21-2007, 07:17 PM
Can someone explain why a brand new track (Rolling Thunder)on its first night had several thousand fans and the last race FMR had only had 100 or so ????? I'd love to hear everyones thoughts on that ?????

I'm sticking to my thoughts that its because there are hardly no other tracks in this area racing on Fridays as compared to a bunch of tracks in this area racing on Saturdays......Those are just my thoughts as a race fan.

RACEFACE
08-21-2007, 07:39 PM
I have not read through this thread completely YET but what I do know is,

luvthedirt seems to have multiple personalities using fireball (http://www.localracechat.com/forums/member.php?u=3491) and racerwife (http://www.localracechat.com/forums/member.php?u=3616) and luvthedirt (http://www.localracechat.com/forums/member.php?u=4140) sharing the same computer.

My guess would be fireball and racerwife Husband and wife and luvthedirt either another family member or an attempt to beat the system.. Just all speculation here on my part but I have been told that fireball is John Manley. I will investigate it more as time permits and don't forget. This Link (http://www.localracechat.com/forums/announcement.php?f=74&a=28)

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Thanks RJ for always bringing it to our attention when there is more than one screen name using the same computer.......helps keep things in perspective on who's saying what !!!
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Poorboy44
08-21-2007, 07:40 PM
Funny thing about it you guys got upset when people got on here and voiced theier opinions but now you are on here talking about other tracks. Sure there wre a few problems at RTR the other night with time etc. One reason is they were still parking tractor trailers and cars at 7:00. As far as cars being turned away if these people can't read rules and come with the right equipment that's their fault not RTR. Rules are gonna be enforced I had to change all my tires this week because I thought I coud run what I had but found out they were illegal. As far as to see who shows up friday we'll know in a few days won't we. I have wished FMR the best of luck and have hated to see what is happening but don't go bashing another track because they might be doing good. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black huh. Anyway good luck FMR.

Poorboy44
08-21-2007, 07:42 PM
Forgot something as far as the tube cars go there might be plans to have a class totally to themselves and call it a sportsman's class. Just have to wait and see. Call Wayne if you are interested. Not trying to go on another site and start anything but the can of worms was opened on here to start with there will be nothing else as far as I'm concerned on this matter on this site by me.

RACEFACE
08-21-2007, 07:46 PM
Hey Poorboy44 I'll be back Friday night if we are not working OT........Good Luck !!!!!!

tiny14
08-21-2007, 08:15 PM
Hey Poorboy, How Did Ya Do Friday Night???? I Plan On Coming Up There In Two Weeks When I Finally Get A Night Off From Work. Do You Know If They Are Gonna Try To Get The Results Posted On The Website?????

RACEFACE
08-21-2007, 08:43 PM
Hey Poorboy, How Did Ya Do Friday Night???? I Plan On Coming Up There In Two Weeks When I Finally Get A Night Off From Work. Do You Know If They Are Gonna Try To Get The Results Posted On The Website?????


Credit Rolling Thunder Raceway for these results:

Winners from August 17th Race
Crate Late Models
1. #5 Robbie Stevens
2. #4 Caleb Foley
3. #99 David Wilke
4. #19 Jason Walls
5. #93 Donald Brewster
Late Models
1. #33 Roger Nance
2. #3 Brent Robinson
3. #21 Welch
4. #54 Ronnie Poole
5. #21 Ricky Neal
Super Streets
1. #20 John Stamper
2. #45 Victor Foley
3. #34 George Anen
4. #29 Rob Priddy
5. #28 Ron Fespermen
Mini Stocks
1. #11 Kevin Smith
2. #50 Ronnie Covey
3. #223 Travis Bryant
4. #W9 Roger Witcher
5. #95 Corky Bryant
U-Cars
1. #44 Andy Hickman
2. #9 Justin Prillaman
3. #92 David Knowles
4. #03
5. #29
Mini Sprints
1. #C4 Jesse Burton
2. #00 Todd Haegar
3. #17
4. #16
5. #2 Brian Hawks

outdoors2i
08-22-2007, 07:37 AM
Hey Racejunkie, what happens to people that try to beat the system like just happened yesterday. I was posting comments to Fireball and all of a sudden Luvinthedirt started posting and this went on for a while and I was still waiting on Fireball to answer my question. Then you busted them. And the 2nd party posted and apologized but we've not heard from Fireball/Luvthedirt. What's up?:DontKnow:

RaceJunkie
08-22-2007, 12:11 PM
Hey Racejunkie, what happens to people that try to beat the system like just happened yesterday. I was posting comments to Fireball and all of a sudden Luvinthedirt started posting and this went on for a while and I was still waiting on Fireball to answer my question. Then you busted them. And the 2nd party posted and apologized but we've not heard from Fireball/Luvthedirt. What's up?:DontKnow:


Regarding my previous post HERE (http://www.localracechat.com/forums/showpost.php?p=95636&postcount=55)

John called me this morning and explained to me that he was not fireball, that it was his brother Randy and that Luvinthedirt was another brother Daryl. racerwife is Johns wife so since I know who is who and so does everyone else I don't really take any action against anyone.. I don't mind two or three people using the same computer all I ask is that you make it known who you are when asked..

There is nothing wrong with voicing your opinion but when you openly bash a track or member of this site you need to be man/woman enough to say who you are. If not then it has no credit and is subject to be deleted without any explanation..

The above mentioned members were only called out because I wanted to know who was who and if they were all one or three individuals.

As far as them posting anymore, that I can't tell you racerwife has stated that she would still like to post so that is up to her. John has told me that Randy and Daryl have been asked not to use his computer so there again I don't know..


I would like to say that Fork Mountain has had to take it pretty hard from several people here and on other sites about the way the track is being run.. Just like with this site you are going to have happy members and not so happy ones, you have to do what you think is right for the survival of your interest and like mine being this site, I will piss a few people off but I can't please everyone and I am sure the same applies to French and FMR..

If everyone truly enjoyed OLR/FMR in that past they should work at helping the situation instead of making it worse. Now that RTR is running on Fridays everyones Friday night fix is complete, maybe the two tracks can work together next year and everyone can get their dirt fix for the weekend.:icon_cool:

Dwayne Pierce
Owner - Local Race Chat

racerwife
08-22-2007, 01:17 PM
First of all can I say, I wasn't really appologizing, I didn't know that I was supposed to. I was just stating that I didn't know that it was an issue with who I was, and I had no idea that different users from the same computer would cause such a problem.

I have no malice toward any of the tracks, RTR, FCS, 311 or anyother.
I'm not mad, or upset, just wanted to clear the air and let EVERYONE know who I am and that I have my own opinions, and I appreciate the ability to be able to voice them here on racechat. :lrc_rules:(hope i did that in my last post)
Again, let me say, any opinions that I have expressed were my own, not John's or French's or anyone else affiliated with FMR. Tina:flowers:

w1ck3d0n3l0st
08-22-2007, 01:18 PM
Spoken like a wise man,.

Poorboy44
08-22-2007, 05:48 PM
Hey Tiny what's up. Up and down night getting thru 3 and 4 good but struggling a little in 1 and 2. Think I have a busted shock on right front rolling over real bad and rolled a tire with about 2 or 3 laps to go. Finished 6th but should of been 4th scoring error but let it slide. Don't know how much I'm gonna race this year work is a little slow. Not gonna do like I have in the past and put money in the car when it needs to go elsewhere. Catch ya later Holla at me later.

outdoors2i
08-23-2007, 10:50 AM
First of all can I say, I wasn't really appologizing, I didn't know that I was supposed to. I was just stating that I didn't know that it was an issue with who I was, and I had no idea that different users from the same computer would cause such a problem.

I have no malice toward any of the tracks, RTR, FCS, 311 or anyother.
I'm not mad, or upset, just wanted to clear the air and let EVERYONE know who I am and that I have my own opinions, and I appreciate the ability to be able to voice them here on racechat. :lrc_rules:(hope i did that in my last post)
Again, let me say, any opinions that I have expressed were my own, not John's or French's or anyone else affiliated with FMR. Tina:flowers:Hey EASY, since school started yesterday and you posted @ 1:17 nobody home but you. You can fool some of the people some of the time,BUT you can't fool all the people all the time. Hope you have a good Day. Gary:thanx:

racerwife
08-23-2007, 12:18 PM
First let me say, this is a racing forum, not a personal place to chat, but you are starting to get on my nerves. I am employed at one of the Henry county schools that let out early yesterday due to the heat, you know me Gary, and you know what school. Also, just to let you know my schedule, since it must make a difference, we got out today at noon, and we will get out early friday as well.
I'm not entirely sure what your problem is, but it's getting really redundant. Your issues are beginning to seem personal rather than about FMR or any other track. If you have questions about who posted what, you could call, you don't have to post your personal feelings towards john on here.
Race junkie had no problem with different users on the same computer, and it was all cleared up as to who they were and why, but you still have a problem, WHY?
Sorry to unload and bother anyone with this personal "mess". Just wanted to clear the air. Thanks, Tina

outdoors2i
08-24-2007, 02:15 AM
I guess Its because Your husband has NO brothers. And he has bashed the Mays Racing team after the June "NO RULES RACE" because they got Steve Brodie to drive one of their 2 cars and he won. Now is that any way a PR man should be? Instead of you guys trying to run racecar teams and fans off you should be getting all you can with the fan and car counts so low. And yes I have known you for over 15 years and Johnny over 25 yrs. I guess I just don't believe anything that comes from you 2 anymore. Gary

RACEFACE
08-24-2007, 09:34 AM
Regarding my previous post HERE (http://www.localracechat.com/forums/showpost.php?p=95636&postcount=55)

John called me this morning and explained to me that he was not fireball, that it was his brother Randy and that Luvinthedirt was another brother Daryl. racerwife is Johns wife so since I know who is who and so does everyone else I don't really take any action against anyone.. I don't mind two or three people using the same computer all I ask is that you make it known who you are when asked..

There is nothing wrong with voicing your opinion but when you openly bash a track or member of this site you need to be man/woman enough to say who you are. If not then it has no credit and is subject to be deleted without any explanation..

The above mentioned members were only called out because I wanted to know who was who and if they were all one or three individuals.

As far as them posting anymore, that I can't tell you racerwife has stated that she would still like to post so that is up to her. John has told me that Randy and Daryl have been asked not to use his computer so there again I don't know..


I would like to say that Fork Mountain has had to take it pretty hard from several people here and on other sites about the way the track is being run.. Just like with this site you are going to have happy members and not so happy ones, you have to do what you think is right for the survival of your interest and like mine being this site, I will piss a few people off but I can't please everyone and I am sure the same applies to French and FMR..

If everyone truly enjoyed OLR/FMR in that past they should work at helping the situation instead of making it worse. Now that RTR is running on Fridays everyones Friday night fix is complete, maybe the two tracks can work together next year and everyone can get their dirt fix for the weekend.:icon_cool:

Dwayne Pierce
Owner - Local Race Chat

I guess Its because Your husband has NO brothers. And he has bashed the Mays Racing team after the June "NO RULES RACE" because they got Steve Brodie to drive one of their 2 cars and he won. Now is that any way a PR man should be? Instead of you guys trying to run racecar teams and fans off you should be getting all you can with the fan and car counts so low. And yes I have known you for over 15 years and Johnny over 25 yrs. I guess I just don't believe anything that comes from you 2 anymore. Gary

Wow.......if this is correct and he has NO brothers what a slap in the face for both Local Race Chat and Fork Mountain Raceway........this should be totally unexcusable if it happens to be true. I always thought it was stupid when another forum made you mail in a photo copy of a picture ID to participate in their forum.....But now I can understand why.
:wow3_nbs:

RaceJunkie
08-24-2007, 06:56 PM
Please take any further personal discussions either of you have someplace else. You both know each other so you don't need this site to discuss your differences.

Since this thread has went off topic as what it was originally used for it will be closed.

Thanks for your understanding.

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