Late Model Race???

[DOCCALLAHAN]

OK GUYS AND GALS IM GONNA TRY AND GET US A LATE MODEL RACE AT FMR I ALREADY HAVE A FEW CARS THAT SAID THEY WOULD SHOW UP I JUST WANNA SEE HOW MUCH INTEREST WE CAN GET IM ALSO LOOKING FOR A SPONSOR THAT WOULD HELP IN THE PURSE PART OF IT ALSO MESSAGE ME BACK IF YOU CAN HELP AND LETS SEE HOW MANY CARS ARE INTERESTED SO FAR IT IS; DOC,NEAL WELCH,JOHNNY STOVALL,RAY SHELTON,WE NEED SOME MORE ON THIS LIST:16Evil:

[fireball]

Hey Doc,
Bring the late models up this Sat and runem' with the crates, and show French you guys are interested in running at FMR. The more cars the more purse, and I know you guys would love the surface it's in the best shape that I've ever seen it in. All the complainin about the purse is whats got French hesitating on trying to run a late model show. I think it would go a long way if you guys pull in up there and race and let him know you are serious about wanting to race. jmo.

[BIG WHEEL]

did FMR get all the screws out of the track. i think that was senseless whether or not it was deliberate.

to recap for anyone who did not know, someone dumped 15 lbs of wood screws on the track. no one knows who, or if it was on purpose or accident.

if Late Models succeed with a race @ FMR. it will be the first step in bringing dirt track lovers back to a great dirt short track.

[jfishhook]

I have no sponsor money, but I know for a fact I have at least 10 fans ready to come watch a race

[DOCCALLAHAN]

the main thing im trying to do is develope a list of people that would be willing to race and also come watch thanx for replying and if you do hear of someone willing to help please let me know

[fireball]

Lonnie Tatum from manufacturers liquidation center has said he would sponsor a late model race and pay 800.00 to win, so you might want to contact him.

[Marcia Reed]

I can tell you that JC Clary would love to come run a race there......if it could be planned a little in advance, the 89 would be there....

[durtyjohnny35]

Great to read a totally positive thread. We need more of this, and I hope you all can get it together. Sounds to me like we have some real dirt fans, and competitors getting together for a common good. Keep it up, and we all might just get to see the LM's back at FMR (OLR). Go for it DOC!

[sideways69]

Hey Doc, Have you talked to Gary East, he alway's run's good up there.Is Terry Cardwell doing any racing now, have'nt seen him in a while. I hope you get enough cars to support this race, because like everybody is saying bring the late models and fans will come.:idea:

[dirtslider]

East?

the Mountain MAN!

What happened to Mike Bullins?

[DOCCALLAHAN]

im hoping to talk with both of them soon i did talk to gary awhile back and he said he was interested but i havent seen him since i started this thread but im sure he would runt there also i also talked to french yesterday and we might have a date but i will post that as soon as i get things worked out would be next monththough

[LuvSumSLM's]

I think ths is a very good idea. It is very nice to see something entirely positive for a change.

[BIG WHEEL]

:05Cool: if its the august date, that would give drivers/owners time to get prepared to run at OAK LEVEL RACEWAY. (i refuse to accept any other name). i'm scheduling that date to be @ OLR. GO LATE MODELS!!!!!

[doitnthedirt]

we are triying to get our car ready to be there this sat .as for purse money lonnie tatum offered to put up purse for this weekend ,but couldnt get it worked out with track.

[RACEFACE]

we are triying to get our car ready to be there this sat .as for purse money lonnie tatum offered to put up purse for this weekend ,but couldnt get it worked out with track.


Thats soooooo interesting......A GREAT LOCAL BUSINESSMAN trying to make the racing better........and a track that didn't want it better......That definately makes me as a fan want to show up this week........NOT:wings_O_o:

[fireball]

I think some people are missing the point of French trying to better the track. He didn't say he didn't want sponsors, but instead said he was no more eager to spend sponsors money than he was his own, for a class who pretty much brushed him off from the beginning. He offered to run the late models under a reduced purse deal until things got better, then he could up the purse to the "good" money, but was told by the late models that they wouldn't race for less than a tho:donate2_NBS: usand to win. french did not see a good business decision in that kind of purse so he told them when they were willing to run on the sliding pay scale that all the other divisions race on then he would be more than happy to add them to the schedule. So, all that means is the more cars the bigger the purse, and a full field is considered to be 16 cars, I don't think it would be too difficult to get 16 late models there if they would stop the complaining and just go racin'.

[dirtslider]

yep, i 'll be there whether it's 6 or 16 cars.....Heck, Natural Bridge only had about 7 LM last week and it was a good show,OLR/FM is a much better spot for LM's and a he// of a show when they were there last year....Can't wait for saturday to watch Satch....I assume he's driving #71...Hope he does not lose a cylinder this time! :05Cool::05Cool: :14NotWorthy:

[RaceJunkie]

did FMR get all the screws out of the track. i think that was senseless whether or not it was deliberate.

to recap for anyone who did not know, someone dumped 15 lbs of wood screws on the track. no one knows who, or if it was on purpose or accident.

if Late Models succeed with a race @ FMR. it will be the first step in bringing dirt track lovers back to a great dirt short track.


Yes they have all been removed and it was done deliberately...




Lets keep this thread on it's original topic :thankyou2:

[fireball]

Doc, any updates for us on a late model deal? We are all anxious to hear that the lates will be on the August 25th race date..

[DOCCALLAHAN]

no word so far but hopefully afterv this weekend i have talked to a few people and things are looking good but im waiting on tatum to call me back or if i dont get to race at 311 this sat im going to fmr to see him and talk to him about it so wish me luck in this venture and mabe mmonday i will have some good news and the main reason im going to 311 is to shake mine down if i get my motor backin time

[antidive]

Is this going to be superlatemodel and what are the tire rules

[Bullins29Motorsports]

Hey dirtslider , thanks for thinking about us. Mike has raced two times at 311 with the supers and is looking foward to coming back to FMR as soon as they shedule a race for the late models. WE WILL BE THERE!!!!

[dirtslider]

good deal, we think about you guys every time we go to that track...you were there almost every race last year and it's kinda strange not seeing you there this year....but i hope we will see you soon!

[fireball]

Just a side note to you late model guys, if 4 or 5 of you show up french will find a way to run you as a class, he's done other guys that way this year with Mike young and a late model car from ridgeway. Show French you guys are serious and show up and see what happens, you won't be turned away..

[fireball]

Hey Doc, that would be a great track for you to shake your car down at. You could run it with the crate lates, that's where the other two late models ran when they just showed up to race.:Deal:

[RACEFACE]

Just a side note to you late model guys, if 4 or 5 of you show up french will find a way to run you as a class, he's done other guys that way this year with Mike young and a late model car from ridgeway. Show French you guys are serious and show up and see what happens, you won't be turned away..

Hey Fireball......if these 4 or 5 late models show up tomorrow night is French going to pay at least if not more than the 800.00 Lonnie was going to originally put up tomorrow but French turned down????

[fireball]

Probably not but if they want to show him they are serious about wanting to run there then i don't think the purse should play into it at all. I think everyone got off on the wrong foot when it comes to the late models, and if we get to run there we are gonna have to show him that we'll support the track without complainin about the purse.

[RACEFACE]

I know i'm only a fan.....but if I owned a ten or twenty thousand dollar late model I would definately want a little return on the risk of my car getting tore up not even speaking of the cost to get there,get in the pits, gas for the race car, and possibly tires.....I really wish when Doc gets to run his Late Model race that so many of us are Thankful he is trying to do,I hope its on a Friday night......I know the poll I started on here only accounts of a handful of us.....but if you look at the number of fans who are happy with the Satuday race night and compare it to the Friday voters which is about 4 times as many I really think these numbers would pay off as far as fans in the stands.....which is what it should all be about.

[fireball]

If there were more than 4 or 5 local people trying to help he probably could run on Fridays but most of his help comes from the VSS Sprint guys and they can't get off work and drive 3-5 hours and get here to help or race on Fridays. The sprint guys are here and helping with whatever he needs by about noon, and stay till everythings done,then drive the 3-5 hours back home, that's alot of dedication for 100 bucks wouldn't you say?

[RACEFACE]

I know French is very much involved with those guys and thats great.....and I'm sure there are plenty of people around here that would probably donate their time at the track on Fridays to make it happen.....but this track we love so much used to be all about people who may have driven a couple hours at the most to race or watch the race.......now the main division are VSS Sprints.....who we have to rely on driving 3-5 hours to even have a race ...maybe its just me......but its kindof like living in Alaska and opening up an Ice Cream Shop.......if its not what the people want to watch race....why should we come......No one would have ever thought 10 years ago this track would be going through this.

[fireball]

And we could be the big attraction again at FMR but we gotta give a little to get a little and that's what I'm sayin its gonna take to get us on the schedule there and we can't go any way but up from there, if the cars and fans support then the purse wouldn't be a problem. I think we all could afford a race or two at a low payout to prove we can get the cars and fans back at a great track.

[DOCCALLAHAN]

the night french races on really doesnt matter that much ive been going to races for a long time and most fans just wanna see a good show thats the main reason they go they wanna have a good time and see some good action i didnt get my engine back so im riding up to fmr tonite and hopefully set this race up i have some ideas that i will put up soon but racers give me an idea on tires and as far as running supers i was hoping to run this race with the rtr rules on weights so everybody can run if they want jh clary has showed some interest and mabe some other cars from clarys can show up to race with us also i hoppe we can get it together and have a full feild of cars
that way mabe we can get a late model schedule for next year and then the folks at rtr and fmr mabe get together and offer a bonus to win at both tracks like in thegood ole days between ace and 311 used to offer bonus to win at both tracks thats when the fans and racers got really into their racing went both nites and supported both tracks not like another track close by that doesnt wanna work with anyone i base my opinions on tracks ive been to and also look at fayetteville they had a friday nite big race and the stands were packed they usually ruun on sat nites but everybody came to support this race cause they like the track and love racing thats the way it should be now we have french who is gonna stick by his rules and enforce them the way they should be and noone wants to support him but they will go to a place where scale wires get cut for pissing someone off just to watch supers but on their off week the stands are pitiful i think that if we can get this race going and next year get latemodels on the schedule both frm and rtr could be the best racing around french has made the surface of the track better than it ever has been and i at least wanna try to help him out i will post some ideas after tonite and get some input on how the racers think after i talk to a potential sponsor and french tonite

[fireball]

Hey Doc,
When you go up to FMR tonite, go up to the tower and talk to the PR guy, he's a super guy to work with and I think you'll find that he can get you and French together on the show you want to put on up there. I think he said his name was John, but the lady at the gate could tell ya. I have talked with him many times and he's very easy to talk to and appreciates what we are wanting in a race track.

[Dirtmover]

I know i'm only a fan.....but if I owned a ten or twenty thousand dollar late model I would definately want a little return on the risk of my car getting tore up not even speaking of the cost to get there,get in the pits, gas for the race car, and possibly tires.....I really wish when Doc gets to run his Late Model race that so many of us are Thankful he is trying to do,I hope its on a Friday night......I know the poll I started on here only accounts of a handful of us.....but if you look at the number of fans who are happy with the Satuday race night and compare it to the Friday voters which is about 4 times as many I really think these numbers would pay off as far as fans in the stands.....which is what it should all be about.
PUT UP THE MONEY AND THEY WILL COME!!!!!!!!!! WHAT ABOUT A SUPER LATEMODEL RACE? THATS THE ONLY THING 311 HAS GOT GOING FOR IT. NOT FOR THE TWIN 25'S IT WOULD PROBALY BE SHUT DOWN! THERE IS ALOT OF LATEMODEL'S AND SUPER'S IN THIS AREA LOOKING FOR A CLOSE PLACE TO RACE AND ALL OF THEM LIKE THE OAK OR WHATEVER THE NAME IS NOW. IF HE WOULD PAY FROM 1000 to 1500 WEEKLY HE WOULD HAVE SOME CARS. THESE GUYS HAVE GOT ALOT OF MONEY TIED UP TO RUN FOR $800 AND FOR THAT LITTLE OF MONEY U CANT EXPECT MUCH.

[RACEFACE]

Anyone have any results from FMR races tonight ????

[driver10]

PUT UP THE MONEY AND THEY WILL COME!!!!!!!!!! WHAT ABOUT A SUPER LATEMODEL RACE? THATS THE ONLY THING 311 HAS GOT GOING FOR IT. NOT FOR THE TWIN 25'S IT WOULD PROBALY BE SHUT DOWN! THERE IS ALOT OF LATEMODEL'S AND SUPER'S IN THIS AREA LOOKING FOR A CLOSE PLACE TO RACE AND ALL OF THEM LIKE THE OAK OR WHATEVER THE NAME IS NOW. IF HE WOULD PAY FROM 1000 to 1500 WEEKLY HE WOULD HAVE SOME CARS. THESE GUYS HAVE GOT ALOT OF MONEY TIED UP TO RUN FOR $800 AND FOR THAT LITTLE OF MONEY U CANT EXPECT MUCH.



I have to disagree with that myself. I was at 311 last Sat. night and I thought the racing was great and the crowd was pretty good. Super late models did not run that night but the other races were pretty good. The only one they were really hurting was the hobby class. But I do agree with if they would pay at FMR and race a little more often the cars would come.

[dirtslider]

Anyone have any results from FMR races tonight ????


Sprints
#6
#95
Satch finished somewhere around 9th in #F1X

Crates
#14
only had 5 crates with one SS #57 running really well with the crates.

Mini Stocks
#8 J.Smith
Kevin Smith showed up and broke twice, ran maybe 1/2 lap total , watched race from infield.....';';;'chUckLE';';':smiley_374:

Pure Stocks
#58 Underwood
2 others showed up , #6 didn't run feature and #49 junk almost got lapped but at least he did show up...where were the Pure Stocks???

Ucars
#7 Jamie Trent $150
#47 Woody $125
#90 $100
#1 $75
Race was called a little short.....';';;'fireworks';';'; in the infield!


a pretty good night and very entertaining, French has a good sense of humor and is pulling this track together !

[RACEFACE]

Thanks for the update !!!!:icon_rock:

[AEB_Racing]

Sprints
#6
#95
Satch finished somewhere around 9th in #F1X

Crates
#14
only had 5 crates with one SS #57 running really well with the crates.

Mini Stocks
#8 J.Smith
Kevin Smith showed up and broke twice, ran maybe 1/2 lap total , watched race from infield.....';';;'chUckLE';';':smiley_374:

Pure Stocks
#58 Underwood
2 others showed up , #6 didn't run feature and #49 junk almost got lapped but at least he did show up...where were the Pure Stocks???

Ucars
#7 Jamie Trent $150
#47 Woody $125
#90 $100
#1 $75
Race was called a little short.....';';;'fireworks';';'; in the infield!


a pretty good night and very entertaining, French has a good sense of humor and is pulling this track together !


just a little correction. #49 pedro woody in the u-cars

[dirtslider]

you are correct...thank you....

do you know where the #50 ucar was tonight?

he's usually there...

[AEB_Racing]

the #50 never showed up to work on his car so he couldn't race it. haven't seen him all week and the car needed work done from the people trying to wreak each other last time.

[Dirtmover]

I have to disagree with that myself. I was at 311 last Sat. night and I thought the racing was great and the crowd was pretty good. Super late models did not run that night but the other races were pretty good. The only one they were really hurting was the hobby class. But I do agree with if they would pay at FMR and race a little more often the cars would come.
AND HOW MANY CARS WERE THERE TOTAL? 311 OR FMR. BOTH ARE HURTING ON CAR COUNTS.

[DOCCALLAHAN]

the track is hurting for cars and i talked to french last nite and his reply was it had to make economic sense to run the late models which i understand but economic sense says that if someone is willing to pay the purse then what is wrong with that he says that the lates will expect that kinda payout everytime which i would agree with but at 800 to win and total purse of ony 3k thats not that much but i have some ideas that im still working on to see if i can still get a race up there

[RACEFACE]

If you race on Fridays the fans and their $$$$ will come !!!!

[DOCCALLAHAN]

i tried to tell him that just running lates would bring in the money and he said that late models want too much money to run and then he wanted the late model teams to buy 10 grandstand tickets also when they come race then give them to whoever they want butthat is stupid fans really wanna see late momdels there and i hope i can get at least 1 show to show him the crowd that they bring with them i have some things like if we do come mabe the lates could pay 50 entracne fee which would give them 5 tickets for their fans and the fans could give theteams their money back for tickets then he would have 5 fans for each late model team for the first race just a special event only there is a man willing to sponsor it but french doesnt wanna give him a chance do show him what the lates could bring now as far as thevss series i dont even think they hit the floor with the gas pedal just my opinion but why would you if the whole lot gets 100 just to ride around even the winner

[mafia racing]

hey doc i give you an a for effort but your fighting a losing battle.the racing community has told and told him what to do but he is sticking to his guns.he just wants a place for the vss guys to race at.but french can look at it ina good way.the track is paid for and its a shame no people will be there.wonder why that is?

[fireball]

Hey Mafia, Just to let you know they had a good field of cars and 4 late models with Mark Crowe running his super street with them made it a great show. It was too mad none of the pure syock guys can handle Lewis Underwood though, he was really lonesome up there, but I guess when it's a rules race it eliminates you guys huh? jmo.. See everyone else August 25..

[RACEFACE]

Hey Mafia, Just to let you know they had a good field of cars and 4 late models with Mark Crowe running his super street with them made it a great show. It was too mad none of the pure syock guys can handle Lewis Underwood though, he was really lonesome up there, but I guess when it's a rules race it eliminates you guys huh? jmo.. See everyone else August 25..


Huh......Personally I don't think 4 Late Models and 1 Super Street is a good field of cars.....well I guess it would be for the owner as far as not having to pay out alot...... All I can say is WOW !!!!!!

[fireball]

Hey Joe,
You are right it did save alot on payout, but at least it was racin and I got to see it did you? When all the garaged late models decide to get their dusty old cars out and run for a purse that the owner can afford to pay then it won't be a good show, it'll be a hell of a show, but their ego's are getting the better of them for now I guess.:partyb:

[DOCCALLAHAN]

thats just it most late models wanna race bt all french wants to do is pay everybody the same amoount al the way thru the crates had good cars and mark crowe dorve the wheels off his car along with dennis branch and mike young their shaking his car down with a sponsor willing to pay most of the purse he still doesnt wanna put on a show unless all cars make about the same he told me on a payout of 3k that that was 300 per car and he only gives his sprints 100 each no matter what and that the late models were not worth paying that much quote

[RACEFACE]

Hey Joe,
You are right it did save alot on payout, but at least it was racin and I got to see it did you? When all the garaged late models decide to get their dusty old cars out and run for a purse that the owner can afford to pay then it won't be a good show, it'll be a hell of a show, but their ego's are getting the better of them for now I guess.:partyb:

Hey Fireball.....no....I'm not able to attend races at FMR because they are on Saturdays.....This is not meant as a bashing or negative statement but I have always attended the races at FCS on Saturdays.....we had great racing there last night...21 Modifieds plus the 1000.00 to win Mod4(mini stocks) and a 500.00 to win Ucar race....It was a wild night as the late Richie Evans had his track record broken after all of these years....had between 4000 - 5000 fans there......I really miss going to the races at OLR(FMR now)....it made for such a great weekend to go to the OAK on Fridays and FCS on Saturdays.....then wake up on Sunday morning and wash the red dirt of my car from going to both races.......I know there are hundreds of people that would love to still be able to do that from just hearing the talk around the track.....FMR is really a great track.....and as a fan of it I really hate that things are no way what they used to be.....I remember back in the day if you were not there by 6pm you would be in the bottom couple rows dodging the dirt pellets slung from the tires.....man those were the days.....Like i said its really sad that things have to be like they are.....I live 10 - 15 minutes from the track and have had family run it in the past.....I know French sounds like he is set in his ways.....call it hard headed if you want....its his track.....I just hate that FMR is not being run to its potential....I was a little hesitant when FCS opened this year with the new promoter.....but his thoughts on running FCS are the opposite of French's......Richard is taking the chances on paying the higher purses and the cars and fans are turning out.......I really wish French the best on his track this year.....maybe if one of the very few off weekends at FCS match one of the Saturdays that FMR runs I'll be able to make it down.

[jhofficial]

Sounds like to me Doc I'd quit bbeating my head against that wall:confused: :193uc:

[RACEFACE]

Sadly.....but truely jhofficial I agree with you .

[FF_21]

If the guy still does'nt want to have a latemodel race after someone else offered to pay the purse that right there should tell you he does'nt want them!!!!!Guess he is afraid they will tear up his precious VSS car club track and he will have to do a lil work to it.Only racing 1 time a month and thats when the the VSS is there?That right there should tell you the only thing he wants racing there.If he was wanting the latemodel teams to buy 10 grandstand tickets and just give them away that should show you people how greedy he is.Did'nt realize Bobby Johns had a twin out there!!!!!!

[DOCCALLAHAN]

unless anything changes im not gonna keep trying to show french what a show the late models can put on at least we race im gonna put my efforts on a track that will stand behind the late models and if french does decide to put on a show then mabe he can beg us instead of us trying to get him to put on a show let him call us we all know who puts on the show as far as the cars going there good luck and show him what a race is not just riding around

[RaceJunkie]

Damn shame Doc, a real shame...

[fireball]

French said on TV Monday nite that the VSS Sprints were not gonna be there on August 25, and he said that he thought Doc may have something worked out by then to run a late model show that night. Stay on it it Doc, he'll come around.. We up here are on him about it too.

[BIG WHEEL]

PLEASE stay on him doc. he has to see that late models are what makes that track. Virginia Sprint Series are a touring series and it wouldn't work as a weekly feature in that part of the state. Late Models are what attracts the fans to that track. And if its true about Bobby Johns telling his Late's that they can run somewhere else, it would only attract more cars to OLR.

[jhofficial]

aUGUEST 25TH IS NOT A GOOD DAY IF YOU ARE GONNA TRY AND PULL CARS FROM AN EXPANDED AREA!! tHAT NIGHT CAROLINA SPEEDWAY GASTONIA NC SKYLER TRULL MEMORIAL RACE. $10,000 TO WIN $500 TO START

[RACEFACE]

The ONLY way this track will ever succeed is if it runs on Fridays.....Theres just too many other tracks running in this area.......Take last weekend......you had 100-150 people at FMR.....and 4,000 to 5,000 people 15 minutes away at another track.......Its going to take not only the Late Models but fans from these other tracks who would gladly attend races on Friday nights......Once Rolling Thunder opens its gonna be very hard for FMR to ever run ......even for those Sprints that frankly no one around here even cares for anyway.

[DOCCALLAHAN]

i talked to some people up there sat niteandsent my ideas to tatum and my number hopefully he will call me and i will keep on french since ive read these last few posts see im from greensboro and dont get to see the race program on ch18 i do know that bobby told l cassel tucker and stovall he didnt care if they came back cassell told me that himself but fmr can be run on sat if rtr runs fri they just have to work together on the shows no track can really run sucessfull without sponsored help i had a list of 9 cars to come raceand a good payout purse with the same rules as fmr so anybody could race that wanted to heck even jc clary mentioned hemight would come race isnt that worth something?? thatsa long ride but i will keep trying just help me by keeping me informed on info from up that way so i can use it in my efforts

[DarthSirus]

Hey Doc keep contacting French and negotiate with him let him tell you what he wants and he will liston to what you have to offer then you two guys can work out something to run late model race before the season is out as long as you both negotiate and do not make no demands. It would not work good luck. I have finally got a special race for mini stock class it took me 3 hours last night to get a race date and a good paying purse for the event and this will be first "Super Inline Mini Stock" race on Aug. 25, 2007 but I will wait for Fork Mountain Raceway to post the information out before I can put rules up and paying purse. If any mini stock racers see this look onto www.freewebs.com/simspro4 (http://www.freewebs.com/simspro4) for information and rule on this site is temperary for now until we can get a better web page Thanks.