Good turn out. Are you kidding?

[youngengines]

I tried starting a new thread using this reply. I'm a new user, but some how, it keeps getting deleted. I will be sure to post it on youngengines.com on Monday. I want to make sure my point of view is heard. Although, it does not matter. With the way things are being ran at Fork Mountain Raceway, their demise is eminent.

[jhofficial]

Maybe you should get the hint??????????:confuzeld: :rolleyes: If you had such a bad time then just go somewhere else quietly:laying20laughing:

[youngengines]

What is the point in a forum, if everyone's view is not heard? I can understand vulgar or inappropriate language being deleted. The truth can be a scary thing sometime, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion. By the way, who are you?

[jhofficial]

First off everyone knows who iam ! Second you didnt post your opinion or the turth. You have no first hand knowledge of what is true are not true. Second you only posted what you surposely heard. Thats not an opinion thats hersay. So your post is nothing but a bash with no facts to back it up and Iam not on the staff, but Iam sure they read it and deleted it. I actually have nothing to do with fork mountin, I did attend two races last year as it was oak level. It is over a 3 hour ride each way for me, but if they raced on friday nights this year I'd problyy make another trip, as I like to find out the truth for myself! But cant make it on saturday nights, as I am a little busy!

[fireball]

Now let me give everyone another 'OPINION', the big gripe from the young engine group is because that's where those BIG illegal motors came from in the past and now there is no place for them at FMR and it's driving some people to say and do things that if they were still getting to supply all those HOT engines to the BIG BOYS that ran OLR in the past then all would probably be pretty quiet.
Just my opinion though and we all have one.:thankyou2:

[youngengines]

Your posting is quite comical. Everytime my thread is deleted, I get a message from you. You sure do have a lot to say about something you have nothing to do with at Fork Mountain Raceway. You are there and have a lot of interest, so don't B.S. me. You just fear that my comments are shared by the majority. It is funny to see how all the threads seem to be so encouraging for Fork Mountain Raceway. There are no major complaints at the start of each new thread. I would like to see the track succeed. My husband builds engines; race tracks are what makes our house payment each month. I posted my concerns hoping you and your track would try to make it more driver and fan friendly. If you are not interested in what the fans and drivers are thinking, then that is your own stupidity.

[jhofficial]

Now let me give everyone another 'OPINION', the big gripe from the young engine group is because that's where those BIG illegal motors came from in the past and now there is no place for them at FMR and it's driving some people to say and do things that if they were still getting to supply all those HOT engines to the BIG BOYS that ran OLR in the past then all would probably be pretty quiet.
Just my opinion though and we all have one.:thankyou2:

HMM wonder if theres some truth to that. Someone talking with their pocket book instead of their opinion?????:MODhappyjaz:

[youngengines]

What? Illegal. I believe my husband's motors have been teched and cleared as legal. The Number 5 just won last night. It is a teched engine. Do you know what you are talking about? Drink another, it might help!

[fireball]

Maybe young engines should do what Turners Auto Repair did to try and help FMR, and that is put up a little bonus money for a division? That picked up the Pure stock car count. Maybe yal want to get in on the no rules Crate Late Model Race, no wait you can't cause nothing "stock" comes out of that shop does it?

[youngengines]

Maybe young engines should do what Turners Auto Repair did to try and help FMR, and that is put up a little bonus money for a division? That picked up the Pure stock car count. Maybe yal want to get in on the no rules Crate Late Model Race, no wait you can't cause nothing "stock" comes out of that shop does it?
Is that what this is all about? We sponsored a race at Franklin County Speedway and not FMR. We would love to sponsor a race at FMR. However, we have to put our money where the most people will see it. We are trying build up our business. French Grimes told Barry he didn't want any sponsors until he got the track where it needs to be. Engines are built according to the rules.

[Racerchaser]

You know after reading your post ,I think you are right, maybe you should go to Franklin County Speedway from now on.

[youngengines]

You know after reading your post ,I think you are right, maybe you should go to Franklin County Speedway from now on.
Your location is Delaware!!! How many times have you been to Oak Level, VA.

[fireball]

Yeah you probably right with mullins and those guys at Franklin County Speedway there's probably alot of those young engines up there. Maybe some of those guys could help pay for your beach house ! good luck..:icon_hanged:

[jhofficial]

Your location is Delaware!!! How many times have you been to Oak Level, VA.

What does ones location have to do with anything. Even people in DE can read an see you have a problem with this track. Also people do make it to other tracks far away. Remmber Rick Whaley? Put on a heck of a show up there last year.

[youngengines]

What does ones location have to do with anything. Even people in DE can read an see you have a problem with this track. Also people do make it to other tracks far away. Remmber Rick Whaley? Put on a heck of a show up there last year.
The people of this local racing community just want to have fun, again. Issues need to be brought out into the open, before something critcal, like the track closing down, happens. They need to know how the majority feels. More people would come, if a few things here and there were addressed. This is in Oak Level, not Delaware. Your opinion is quite useless.

[durtyjohnny35]

Barry Young's wife here. Good turn out. Are you kidding? There was 1 Crate Late Model & 2 Super Streets. The two classes ran together. There was one late model who was just in there to run. This is far from entertaining. Most people like the excitement of guessing who might win, after the heat race is ran; most people like the intensity of multiple cars weaving, bumping, and racing for 1st. There is no excitement when there is a 1st & 2nd place winner and that is it. The fans are not there, either. Typically, in the past, I have noticed the fans consisting of family and friends of the drivers. When you have racers coming from far off (and no one has ever heard of them), the locals are not going to a dirt track to eat dirt and watch people they don't know race sprints. It is not happening. I hate to burst anyone's bubble (I don't see how anyone could be clueless enough for this), but the fans are complaining and hating it, too. They want to see locals, like it used to be. They got all wound up when they found out Steve Brodie was there. They want to talk about local racing the next Monday at work. They want to talk about there buddies fighting it out on the track. On top of all this, the Pure Stocks had a no rules race. The Pure Stocks had to follow the same rules as usual; however, super streets could come in and run with some modifications. No rules...still trying to figure that one. Then, if that was not strange enough, the winner was paid $105. I am hoping someone is lying to my husband about that, because that is messed up. Some of these car owners sink 1000's of dollars into a car and for what? To win a $105. It seems to me the owner of the track likes sprints; and, after listening to the fans talk last night, soon the owner is going to have a nice track for he and his sprint friends to play and hang around at. Because, this is all that is going to be left. One more thing I heard the fans talking about, the pits being outside the track. When a racer leaves the track in the middle of the race, the fans like to see what is happening to the car. They like to know what's going on, because you can't hear the announcer while the cars are racing. When the pit area is in front of them, the fans can see steam coming from the hood; they can see a tire being changed; they can see the car being loaded up on the trailer. This was the 1st time I had gone to Fork Mountain Raceway. I can only hope that Barry will understand and take me to Franklin County Speedway from now on.
WOW! You poor thing. And you were made to sit there all night, and be exposed to that? Must have been a hell of a ride home! Ha-ha, God Bless you Barry!

[Racerchaser]

you may be right but yes I have been to oak level twice that i can remember. This is in Oak Level, not Delaware. Your opinion is quite useless.

then from one of your post:
I tried starting a new thread using this reply. I'm a new user, but some how, it keeps getting deleted. I will be sure to post it on youngengines.com on Monday. I want to make sure my point of view is heard. Although, it does not matter. With the way things are being ran at Fork Mountain Raceway, their demise is eminent. The truth can be a scary thing sometime, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

Now here again you think your opinion is more important then someone else. As far as Delaware goes what difference does it make where I am from. When some one like yourself single handed wants to bash a track you dam right I am going to give my opinion.

I know this and for many years past I have gone to tracks all up and down the east coast and across the country. I go to more races by accident then you will go to on purpose. In fact I'll be in Virginia next weekend and Port Royal Pa. Wednesday night and New Egypt NJ. friday night all for racing.

We would love to sponsor a race at FMR. However, we have to put our money where the most people will see it. We are trying build up our business. I sure hope you treat your customers with more respect and dignity then you do French Grimes and FORK MOUNTAIN RACEWAY.


By the way, the more I read of this post, the more it leads me to believe that someone told someone to take a hike and then someone got a case of the .........





JMO

[dirtslider]

What does ones location have to do with anything. Even people in DE can read an see you have a problem with this track. Also people do make it to other tracks far away. Remmber Rick Whaley? Put on a heck of a show up there last year.


I do, was that the LM guy who came down one time last year?

#4 black car maybe?

He was great, but he tried to take the high line at Oak Level & it cost him the race...If it's the same guy , he knows his sh**.....like to see him come down again...:05Cool:

[Racerchaser]

that was him , but he's young and that was his first trip there. I am sure if he comes back it would be different now. I am not making excuses just stating facts. lol

[RaceJunkie]

I tried starting a new thread using this reply. I'm a new user, but some how, it keeps getting deleted. I will be sure to post it on ******.com on Monday. I want to make sure my point of view is heard. Although, it does not matter. With the way things are being ran at Fork Mountain Raceway, their demise is eminent.

I deleted your thread because there is no sense in having the same post in two different places.. Not my opinion just the way it is, I have merged all the posts from the thread here, so don't start another one or the next thing to be deleted will be you..

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[youngengines]

So, I only build illegal engines? How about the race saturday. The 5 won, does that make him illegal? How about Lewis? His car was just as fast. He must be illegal also, right? And Chris? No! I beleive they are all legal. They put on a good show the was they are supposed to. I think there are issues that need to be addressed to try and make the racing better for all. I personally Like French Grimes. We have had 5 engines teched for the track, and have attended every race so far. What else can I do? What was the comment on the beach house all about? I live in Henry, drive a beat up Toyota pick-up, have the pleaseure of having some real good friends and Family, and am happy that way. I work hard to build each engine to run the best it possibly can. Barry

[durtyjohnny35]

FMR = French Grimes VSS car club!
Ah...come on Mike69. You have already made it very clear in your past posts that you don't like French or VSS. Why not try to find something positive to post for a change. We all know how you feel on that subject. You are a racing fan with your own opinions, so why not talk about what you like about racing for a change? BTW, the track was in great shape, and the racing was great Sat. night! Just my opinion. Thanks FMR, good job!:check_flag2:

[dirtslider]

that was him , but he's young and that was his first trip there. I am sure if he comes back it would be different now. I am not making excuses just stating facts. lol


How's he doing this year?
He was fun to watch,i'm sure he would do much better with more time at this track.....I hate to talk about last year but i have not seen any LM or Crates (3)to speak of this year at FM/OLR....We really like the Late Models but all we are seeing is a Sprint show once a month....Heck last year a guy even came from Wisconsin to race at OLR....Just ain't the same...

[Racerchaser]

DELAWARE INTERNATIONAL RESULTS


RICK WHALEY GETS FIRST WIN IN LATE MODELS
06/09/2007


Rick Whaley served notice at the start of the 20-lap Late Model feature as he quickly pulled away from the field. Austin Hubbard was flying on the bottom and shot from seventh to second on lap one. Kerry King climbed to third on lap three as the top two pulled away from the rest of the field.

A series of yellows through lap eight including one for Hubbard who spun on lap six, kept the field tightly bunched. It would be green from lap eight on and at the halfway point the top five where Whaley, Donald Lingo, Jr., David Hill, Ray Davis, Jr. and Dale Lingo.

Donald Lingo was able to close on the back spoiler of Whaley on a couple occasions in the second half but each time Whaley was able to pull back away. Whaley took the win in the Whaley’s Concrete/Rocket. Lingo finished in the second spot with Hill third. Hubbard came from the back of the pack to finish in the fourth spot on the final lap and Dale Lingo rounded out the top five. Heats were won by Whaley and Donald Lingo, Jr.

RESULTS: 20-Lap Late Model Feature: 1. RICK WHALEY; 2. Donald Lingo, Jr.; 3. David Hill; 4. Austin Hubbard; 5. Dale Lingo; 6. Ray Davis, Jr.; 7. Roland Mann; 8. Vic Thomas; 9. Bob Geiger; 10. G.G. Messick; 11. Kerry King; 12. Byran Whaley; DNS: Larry Meadows; Trent Collins.


POINTS AT D.I.S.

Donald Lingo Jr Millsboro, DE 1025 Kerry King Delmar, DE 770 Rick Whaley Millsboro, DE 705 David Hill Trappe, MD 689 Bob Geiger Laurel, DE 571 G. G. Messick Millsboro, DE 549 Kenny Pettyjohn Millsboro, DE 545 Austin Hubbard Seaford, DE 470 Ray Davis Jr Millsboro, DE 454 Vic Thomas Georgetown, DE 423

[mafia racing]

hey fireball who are you referring to about the big motors.french has teched all the engines and as far as the young engines goes everyone passed...as a matter of fact the 58 motor pumped a 10.7 and the rule is10.5 compression..but let the whinners complain and hopefully french should have a good track for the sprint boys...

[fireball]

The engines wasn't teched for the pure stock, no rules race. And the car that won it hasn't run that good all year, so i guess they changed the engine for that race huh? And from the talk, that team is one of the whinners.

[youngengines]

Fireball, You talk like you know a lot about FMR but obviously you know little. The 5 has a seal on it as does the other cars that have been teched. The purpose of the seal is so they dont have to be teched at each race. This is French Grimes' idea to keep every thing level. If you like FMR and French Grimes so much why do you put so little faith in the sealing system.

[youngengines]

Oh Yea, Fireball, What have you done to support FMR?

[tim wadd]

I have a great Idea for the folks at young engines!! Go tell French you want to start a class of all engines you build and you take over the tech end of it and between the two of you French and the folks at young engines you work out the payout!!! Since young engines have so many cars let'em run what ya brung and that away both of you make money and you can quit whining!!! JMO????

[hardcoreracer]

I have a great Idea for the folks at young engines!! Go tell French you want to start a class of all engines you build and you take over the tech end of it and between the two of you French and the folks at young engines you work out the payout!!! Since young engines have so many cars let'em run what ya brung and that away both of you make money and you can quit whining!!! JMO????


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[youngengines]

I will ask this once again, what have any of you done to support FMR? ( I mean the last ones that have posted the remarks towards me) Do you race there, go every week they run? I have been every week. I have 3 engines running there, not 20, so the money I have made is small (no beach house). I talked to French a couple days ago, we get along fine. I wish I could make things better for FMR, I just dont have the answers. You can talk about my engines all you want and hide behind your screen names. We have had the engines teched, and have no need to run illegal. If you would like to talk to me personally, give me a call. 276-340-3278.
Barry Young

[RACEFACE]

Barry......I just want you to know I appreciate everything you do for our LOCAL RACING scene at the different tracks.......I can tell that most of these people truely don't know you.....I haven't heard of any of them putting their money into sponsoring LOCAL RACING like you have at FCS this year....And i'm sure you would do the same at OLR if it ran more than once in a blue moon...Once again I Thank You for everything you do to help save the dying breed of LOCAL RACING !!!!!

[mafia racing]

great remark raceface he has done alot for me as well as many people in henry and surrounding counties.he does great work and will help any racer if they need it.we all have tried to make things better at fmr but our opinions dont matter to french...we try to tell him what to do to help the track with no success...

[smitty240]

you may be right but yes I have been to oak level twice that i can remember. This is in Oak Level, not Delaware. Your opinion is quite useless.

then from one of your post:
I tried starting a new thread using this reply. I'm a new user, but some how, it keeps getting deleted. I will be sure to post it on youngengines.com on Monday. I want to make sure my point of view is heard. Although, it does not matter. With the way things are being ran at Fork Mountain Raceway, their demise is eminent. The truth can be a scary thing sometime, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

Now here again you think your opinion is more important then someone else. As far as Delaware goes what difference does it make where I am from. When some one like yourself single handed wants to bash a track you dam right I am going to give my opinion.

I know this and for many years past I have gone to tracks all up and down the east coast and across the country. I go to more races by accident then you will go to on purpose. In fact I'll be in Virginia next weekend and Port Royal Pa. Wednesday night and New Egypt NJ. friday night all for racing.

We would love to sponsor a race at FMR. However, we have to put our money where the most people will see it. We are trying build up our business. I sure hope you treat your customers with more respect and dignity then you do French Grimes and FORK MOUNTAIN RACEWAY.


By the way, the more I read of this post, the more it leads me to believe that someone told someone to take a hike and then someone got a case of the .........





JMO
Oak Orchard is probably as close as you ever came to Oak Level Raceway. It's a wonder US 13 Speedway (now Delaware Intl.) ever survived the inane flagging back in the day. If it hadn't been for everyone's respect for Mr. Cathell, Bill, not Charlie, they would have probably dried up. As far as someone having a case, yeah, I was there back then and I'm qualified to speak on the matter. :icon_rifle: