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Redclay Rebel
06-19-2007, 06:55 PM
Jeff Smith has dominated FMS this year. Will he be up front Friday night with the national stars or will he struggle????

Lucky13
06-19-2007, 06:59 PM
Well you know as well as I do, being I was sitting beside you . If he runs like he did last Sat he could be right up there. JMO

Redclay Rebel
06-19-2007, 07:07 PM
Well you know as well as I do, being I was sitting beside you . If he runs like he did last Sat he could be right up there. JMO

Oh yeah! If he is hooked up Friday night like he was this past Saturday, then he'll be a factor for sure,

jhofficial
06-19-2007, 07:36 PM
He will struggle!!!! Whole differant aminal coming this weekend. I know thats not what everyone wants to :19mauer: Buut those are the facts:98qw:

Redclay Rebel
06-19-2007, 07:38 PM
He will struggle!!!! Whole differant aminal coming this weekend. I know thats not what everyone wants to :19mauer: Buut those are the facts:98qw:
You are right Jh, a whole differnsr animal is in town this Friday but dang he was really fast last week. I think if he don't run into troublr he will be a top 8 car.

jhofficial
06-19-2007, 07:40 PM
You are right Jh, a whole differnsr animal is in town this Friday but dang he was really fast last week. I think if he don't run into troublr he will be a top 8 car.



The most important part to remmber this IS NOT a time trail event. You have to race your way in and up front threw a heat:wings_hmm: :wings_sorry: :pee: :88nd:

RaceJunkie
06-19-2007, 09:21 PM
The most important part to remmber this IS NOT a time trail event. You have to race your way in and up front threw a heat:wings_hmm: :wings_sorry: :pee: :88nd:

You damn skippy..:pen0z:

Lucky13
06-19-2007, 09:26 PM
The most important part to remmber this IS NOT a time trail event. You have to race your way in and up front threw a heat:wings_hmm: :wings_sorry: :pee: :88nd:

Well I guess Jeff will win his heat then, specially if his heat has guys that dont know the track. GO JEFF!!!!!

jhofficial
06-19-2007, 09:27 PM
Well I guess Jeff will win his heat then, specially if his heat has guys that dont know the track. GO JEFF!!!!!

Just how much have you had to drink tonight?:08Choke: :wings_sorry: :guidelineshug2rm:

Lucky13
06-19-2007, 09:32 PM
NONE! Hell maybe thats my problem.

jhofficial
06-19-2007, 09:36 PM
NONE! Hell maybe thats my problem.

:li_es: :funnypost: Something cause you aint thinking to clearly:11pi:

Eddy Pollard Jr
06-19-2007, 09:37 PM
SINCE i DON'T HAVE TO WORK THIS PARTICULAR EVENT I GUESS I CAN JOIN THE FUN. MY MONEY IS ON THAT GREEN AND BLACK MACHINE FROM DALLAS,NC. THE ONLY TIME HE RAN THAT CAR HARD SAT WAS THE LAP HE CHASED THE 25 DOWN ON LAP 14. YEP, THESE BOYS ARE A LITTLE FASTER THAN AVERAGE LOCALS BUT THE ONE THING TO CONSIDER, THE ONE THING EVERYBODY COMPLAINS ABOUT, THE ONE THING THAT THESE PARTS OF NC IS FAMOUS FOR... SAND. DO THESE BOYS REALLY KNOW SAND? I DON'T KNOW BUT MR. SMITH DOES!! GIVE "THE BATTLE AT THE SANDHILLS'' CHECK TO THE 70 TEAM.

jhofficial
06-19-2007, 09:48 PM
Theres another top to a keg off somewhere else lol. He has the best chance of any local. But iam going on record NO LOCAL ( yes I consider him a local) will finsh in the top 10, unless its by way of attrition.

Steve Casebolt
Earl Pearson Jr
Dan Schlieper
Ray Cook
Brad Neat
Booper Bare
Matt Miller
Dennis "Rambo" Franklin (if he shows)
Scott Bloomquist (if he shows)
Jimmy "Newport Nightmare" Owens

Theres your top 10 barring no wrecks (which we all know will probly happen) Sramble em up any way you like first threw thenth, but write it down. But it is subject to change as the drivers list changes lmao

w1ck3d0n3l0st
06-19-2007, 09:50 PM
Jh why not give ur top 10 the day of before the race begins at the tent , That way you know is all showin.lol no way to change it then

Eddy Pollard Jr
06-19-2007, 09:53 PM
Lots Of 'if's In There Jh, The 70 Team Already Has It On Their Schedule. Btw, No Kegs Here Pal, We're High On Jesus !!

jhofficial
06-19-2007, 09:59 PM
Lots Of 'if's In There Jh, The 70 Team Already Has It On Their Schedule. Btw, No Kegs Here Pal, We're High On Jesus !!

Just messing with ya big guy. I love talking pre an post race smack about the big races. lol Man we need some more of em this close to home. Walt I will pick my top ten for real with 10 to go friday night :animal37::Kill2:

battenfan4life
06-19-2007, 11:40 PM
jh, IF a bullfrog had wiings, it wouldn't bump its butt when it jumps.

Dirtmover
06-20-2007, 12:16 AM
jhofficial, hope u like the taste of crow? if anybody knows u do how dirt racin can throw a curve from time to time and jeff has a small advantage. tire selection. hope he wins it!

Racerchaser
06-20-2007, 12:40 AM
A. Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series Tires Rule
Hoosier – LM20, 1300, LM40, 1600 & D55 (Shoulder Plated)
American Racer – SD44 & MD56
Goodyear – G40 & G50
Effective immediately (08/30/06) the SUPR or SAS branded Hoosier 1600 is not eligible for competition .
Soft Compounds (SD44, LM20, 1300 & G40) Must Durometer 40 Prior.
Hard Compounds (MD56, LM40, 1600, D55 & G50) Must Durometer 60 Prior
B. Largest permitted tire is twenty-nine inches (29”) by eleven inches (11”) by fifteen inches (15”).
C. Maximum circumference permitted is ninety-three inches (93”).
D. Maximum cross section width permitted is sixteen and three-quarters inches (16 ¾”).
E. Hoops for inspection must pass over tire freely.
F. No tire softeners or conditioners.

jhofficial
06-20-2007, 10:31 AM
jhofficial, hope u like the taste of crow? if anybody knows u do how dirt racin can throw a curve from time to time and jeff has a small advantage. tire selection. hope he wins it!

A. Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series Tires Rule
Hoosier – LM20, 1300, LM40, 1600 & D55 (Shoulder Plated)
American Racer – SD44 & MD56
Goodyear – G40 & G50
Effective immediately (08/30/06) the SUPR or SAS branded Hoosier 1600 is not eligible for competition .
Soft Compounds (SD44, LM20, 1300 & G40) Must Durometer 40 Prior.
Hard Compounds (MD56, LM40, 1600, D55 & G50) Must Durometer 60 Prior
B. Largest permitted tire is twenty-nine inches (29”) by eleven inches (11”) by fifteen inches (15”).
C. Maximum circumference permitted is ninety-three inches (93”).
D. Maximum cross section width permitted is sixteen and three-quarters inches (16 ¾”).
E. Hoops for inspection must pass over tire freely.
F. No tire softeners or conditioners.


Thank you bill. Tire selection, so tire selection huh? Jeff runs american racers every weekend and not even the compounds mentioned above. The guys coming in run these compounds everyweekend, jeff has one race on them this year! Still think he has an advantage? except for one race (an that was in his daddy's car) Every time I have seen Jeff has strap on the purple tire it has been stright to the back.

I like Jeff and he has the best chance of any of the locals, but it aint happening folks and if by some chance it does it wont be the first time I tasted feathers:01Happy:

JRhodes
06-20-2007, 10:37 AM
Thank you bill. Tire selection, so tire selection huh? Jeff runs american racers every weekend and not even the compounds mentioned above. The guys coming in run these compounds everyweekend, jeff has one race on them this year! Still think he has an advantage? except for one race (an that was in his daddy's car) Every time I have seen Jeff has strap on the purple tire it has been stright to the back.

I like Jeff and he has the best chance of any of the locals, but it aint happening folks and if by some chance it does it wont be the first time I tasted feathers:01Happy:


Which tire was he running this past weekend jh? Remember this past weekend allowed for the Lucas Oil tire selection. Who is to say that Jeff didn't put on those AR's that are Lucas Oil tires, and still do what the did? In all honesty, my pick for the race will be "The Wisconsin Wildman" Dan Schlieper, second choice will be Jeff Smith.

DirtZilla13
06-20-2007, 10:38 AM
My pick to win is Earl Pearson Jr, Smith will be about 4th if he don't break

jhofficial
06-20-2007, 10:45 AM
Which tire was he running this past weekend jh? Remember this past weekend allowed for the Lucas Oil tire selection. Who is to say that Jeff didn't put on those AR's that are Lucas Oil tires, and still do what the did? In all honesty, my pick for the race will be "The Wisconsin Wildman" Dan Schlieper, second choice will be Jeff Smith.

Didnt I say he had one race on those compounds and yes that was last weekend. Did he choose to test the rules out or make sure he won the race and kept the point lead? I dont know what he had on! Let you in on a little inside info lol The lucas tire rule is actually a fraud, they only put the AR's that are on there to keep them quiet. Ask any SLM team an they will tell you those to compounds are junk. You would have about as much chance running the tires of your haular as running AR's this weekend lol So everyone will be running purple tires and if thats the case then the clash boys and the AR contracted drives are out to lunch. Also dont forget the rumors that some of these big time boys that are coming this weekend even have those special tires. :lol:

JRhodes
06-20-2007, 11:06 AM
Yeah we know all to well about those special tires. I do agree with you though, Hoosier makes a far better tire than AR. I've sold both of them, and have always prefered the purple. But I'd take either one of them anyday over them Goodyears.(I bet you just love them Goodyears as much as you love Crates huh?)

jhofficial
06-20-2007, 11:10 AM
Yeah we know all to well about those special tires. I do agree with you though, Hoosier makes a far better tire than AR. I've sold both of them, and have always prefered the purple. But I'd take either one of them anyday over them Goodyears.(I bet you just love them Goodyears as much as you love Crates huh?)

If you like the "purple tire over the "red white & blues" then you dont agree with me!!! lol I prefer AR, but I really dont like any tire rules in a national series. As far as goodyear, I havent had a goodyear tire in god only knows when lol. But worse than a tire rule is an exclusive tire rule

JRhodes
06-20-2007, 11:19 AM
Sounded to me like you were tootin' the Purples horn.

jhofficial
06-20-2007, 11:41 AM
Sounded to me like you were tootin' the Purples horn.

Not tootin their horn by no means. But when you are forced to run them every race, it gives you a huge learning curve advanatage. Thats why its such a huge deal for a Local to run up front when them guys come to town. Its not impossible, but not Likely. Jeff Smith will have a chance, but not the odds on favorite like some people thing. Plus you know there always has to be someone to stir things up. The FMS board hasnt had this much talk or views in the history of LRC. so youre welcome lol

JRhodes
06-20-2007, 12:38 PM
Bonnie Raitt said it best "Let's give them something to talk about!"

smith70
06-20-2007, 01:22 PM
I don't usually post comments on forums, but I will on this one. There has been alot of talk about what will transpire Friday night at Fayetteville. I have tried to down play being a contender in this race. I try to be as humble as I can about most aspects of life...racing included. Friday night there will be a lot of good race cars at Fayetteville. I hope that we can make a good showing for the fans and try to represent our region well. There are several other local drivers that run good and have as good of a chance as I do to run good. I will say that we will have a learning curve, as mentioned previously on this thread, with the tire rule that will be in effect. Our experience on the AR 44's is very limited. We would be a little more comfortable if the tire rule allowed us to run the AR 38's because that is the same rubber as the spec tires we normally run on the Clash series and at Fayetteville. The Hoosier 1300 is a little softer than the AR 44 and should have an advantage early on, especially in qualifying and heat races. There is an unknown in the AR 44 as far as the feature goes, because the track hasn't really been hard enough to require that compound (if it were even allowed) at any of the races we have been at down there this year. We really don't know what to expect out of that tire as far as how it will work or the wear characteristics. Hopefully the playing field will balance out early in the night and both brands of tires will be compatible to each other. Either way, if the track is prepared like it has been the past few races, it should be a great show for the fans regardless of who wins.

Jeff Smith #70

Dirtmover
06-20-2007, 01:23 PM
when i said a small advantage in tire selection i was thinkin of his dad also. J H u are talking like he (jeff) will be a lap car or has no chance but just remember jeff has not shown u all of what hes got, that team is awsome. i am just a big fan of jeff smith and ricky weeks and anybody that runs with and outruns superman weeks has got it together. nobody else around can say that. just think jeff will suprise u this weekend and dont forget about superman weeks. :ak47:

jhofficial
06-20-2007, 01:56 PM
when i said a small advantage in tire selection i was thinkin of his dad also. J H u are talking like he (jeff) will be a lap car or has no chance but just remember jeff has not shown u all of what hes got, that team is awsome. i am just a big fan of jeff smith and ricky weeks and anybody that runs with and outruns superman weeks has got it together. nobody else around can say that. just think jeff will suprise u this weekend and dont forget about superman weeks. :ak47:

You know sometimes on here some people say things that and when you reply it makes you sound like you don't like someone or you are questioning their ability, when you disagree with the "big time fans" of someone. I have no doubt that Jeff Smith can drive a race car, no doubt that his presence will be known this Friday night. A lot of this stuff got started because a few people have said write the check right now, he will dominate his "home track". All Im saying is Friday night will be all about TIRES & SHOCKS. With that being said ALL THE LOCALS are at a disadvantage this weekend. If that wasn't the case a local would win every weekend at their home tracks. I wish all the local guys good luck. As far as eating crow, it wont bother me one bit, cause I will be right on the top row grinning from ear to ear if a NC boy can win, be it Smith, Aurty, Beasly, Hair, Marshall, Kotke, Stovall, Heck even throw the SC boy Dean Bowen in there, or the VA Boys of JC Clary or Booper Bare. I am just saying I no were near having my hopes up cause I just don't see it happening, it has NOTHING to do with who I think is the best driver or best team. Its all about RULES

barnburner
06-20-2007, 03:43 PM
That thomas clarke guy must be setting Jeff's car up this year. Heard a couple of other teams were trying to hire the guy for his knowledge and proven track record. Is that guy jeff's crew chief? Didn't Madden approach him with a deal?

gungun
06-20-2007, 04:31 PM
The sun don,t shine on a big dogs butt every day jh.Were going to be clawing for every thing we can get come friday night. I seem to remember the same thing awhile back at clarys with the big dogs in town and the 0 spanked em for about 50 laps . They better be ready are they might get a rude awaken.Good luck to all the local drivers.gungun team 54 slm:pepper:

jhofficial
06-20-2007, 04:38 PM
The sun don,t shine on a big dogs butt every day jh.Were going to be clawing for every thing we can get come friday night. I seem to remember the same thing awhile back at clarys with the big dogs in town and the 0 spanked em for about 50 laps . They better be ready are they might get a rude awaken.Good luck to all the local drivers.gungun team 54 slm:pepper:

One big Difference: OPEN TIRE RULE

gungun
06-20-2007, 04:50 PM
Whats the deal on no qualifing . What we just draw a pill and that were you start in a heat race:con_flag:

gb81racing
06-20-2007, 04:54 PM
Whats the deal on no qualifing . What we just draw a pill and that were you start in a heat race:con_flag:

I think they qualify everyone then that decides were you start in your heat race or something like that

jhofficial
06-20-2007, 04:57 PM
I think they qualify everyone then that decides were you start in your heat race or something like that

yep time trail for heat starting position

EVR_99
06-20-2007, 07:39 PM
I'm sure Jeff meant to say 48's and not 38's. I heard Limiteds will qualify.

Dirtchaser
06-20-2007, 08:27 PM
We will see I,m going with Earl Pearson JR .

w1ck3d0n3l0st
06-20-2007, 08:29 PM
I am goin with the guy that cross the line 1st when the checkered drop's

Racerchaser
06-20-2007, 08:43 PM
JOHN ITS DONE THE WAY YOU SAID



QUALIFYING
Drivers must qualify in order that they drew. If the driver misses their time trial qualification spot for whatever reason, the driver will only receive one (1) qualification attempt. It is the drivers/teams responsibility to be in their qualifying spot on time, in most instances, qualifications will be immediately after hot laps. If you are one of the drivers/teams that draw an early number, you need to be ready to be in line first. Be ready to be in line as soon as the last hot lap group finishes on the track.
Cars will qualify two (2) laps back to back. Once green flag is given the driver to start the qualification run, there will be no wave offs. Drivers exiting the track for whatever reason will not be allowed to return to qualify.
Cars will either be weighed before or after Qualifying, depending on the layout of the current race track, and will be determined by the Series Officials. All cars that are judged to weigh light crossing the scales after Qualifying, will lose their Qualifying Time and will start at the back of a heat race. If there is more than one car that has been judged light, those Drivers will be lined up at the back of the heat races by the Qualifying Order.
Remember that all cars must cross the scales at their sticker weight during Qualifying. There is no burn-off allowance for Qualifying.
RACE FORMAT
Time Trials/Qualifying will determine the lineups for Heat Races. All Drivers must run a Heat Race or Last Chance Race in order to transfer to the Feature. All entered drivers will compete in a heat race. Heats will be ten (10) laps unless otherwise notified in the drivers meeting. Heat races will invert four (4) cars. Heat Race Winners will redraw for starting positions in the A-Main. Number of transfers and Heats will depend on the number of entrants and announced at the drivers meeting.
The number of Heats to be run will be determined solely by the Series Director, and will depend on the number of cars present, track conditions and the Race Track concerned.
Depending upon the number of Heats, either the First 3 (three) from six Heats, or, 4 (four) Finishers from four Heats, will transfer to the Main Feature. All other Drivers, in order of Heat Finish will go through to either one or two Last Chance Features. If more than 16 (sixteen) Cars are present for the Last Chance Feature, they will be split into 2 (two) Last Chance Features in the following manner:
If Four Heats are run, positions 5 through 16 in Heats One and Two will go to Last Chance Feature One, and positions 5 through 16 in Heats Three and Four will go to Last Chance Feature Two. If Six Heats are run, the split will be Heats One, Two & Three to Last Chance Feature One, & Heats Four, Five & Six to Last Chance Feature Two. The Top Finishers from the 2 Last Chance Features will complete the Main Feature Grid on a side by side basis. A maximum of 24 or 26 Cars will start the Main Feature; depending on Promoter/Track (see Promoter's Options).

w1ck3d0n3l0st
06-20-2007, 09:03 PM
Hey you didn;t have to let Jh know he was right .

jhofficial
06-20-2007, 09:26 PM
Hey you didn;t have to let Jh know he was right .

I dont need anyone to let me know I am right lol I did forget about the invert durning the heats, I knew they inverted the feature, but forgot the heats. The invertion makes for a great show for the fans

Eddy Pollard Jr
06-20-2007, 10:02 PM
Guess I'll have to quit the fun and go to Memphis tonight! You guys have a great time at FMS Fri. It looks like we are going to have great weather and after just talking to Larry, the car count as of right now is between 55-60 cars!!! WOW! Enjoy it folks this doesn't happen around here often and if you get the chance, stop by and thank the management of FMS for allowing us this privilege!

gb81racing
06-21-2007, 12:26 AM
I am goin with the guy that cross the line 1st when the checkered drop's

Yea thats a good one to pick probably , but we will see fri night, you never know:DontKnow: :evilB: :lol: :check_flag:

Dirtmover
06-21-2007, 12:29 AM
jh sorry for upsetting u. just making conversation! JEFF SMITH W.F.O

ksmitty79
06-21-2007, 01:22 AM
Mr Jeff Smith,
I would like to wish you and your dad the best of luck this comming weekend and for the rest of the year. I have been watching you for a number of years now and try to follow you to as many races as i can. And just to let you know at wyth when they asked if there were any jeff smith fans. My dad, my girlfriend and myself were the only ones that stood up and you made the comment "this isnt fayetteville." GO get um'

jhofficial
06-21-2007, 11:15 AM
jh sorry for upsetting u. just making conversation! JEFF SMITH W.F.O

Iam not upset, by no means. I also didn't mean to upset anyone else; You ,Jeff or any of his fans. Guess what? I actually like Jeff. None of these post had anything to do with him. They pertain to all the locals this Friday night. I wish em well, but I also understand the uphill climb they have by running someone else's rules. Now you bring these same guys in an make em run by CLash rules and I believe Jeff Smith would wax there ---

tim wadd
06-21-2007, 12:33 PM
He will struggle!!!! Whole differant aminal coming this weekend. I know thats not what everyone wants to :19mauer: Buut those are the facts:98qw:JH you must be out of your mind !!!! Jeff can race with anyone, he should have a slight advantage or atleast I hope he does Ive always liked Jeff and I hope he wins HA HA!!!! LMAO JH I couldn't help myself will you ever 4give me??LOL In all honesty JEFF WILL BE JUST FINE IF he runs his own race and don't let the names like Pearson get to him cause he's done it before!!!!!!JH R U saying that the drivers this weekend have deeper pockets or what???:lame:

w1ck3d0n3l0st
06-21-2007, 02:41 PM
I think jeff will be ok but want win. The boys comin friday does have deep pockets but that doesn;t matter i think. They have the knowledge and set up guys that will help them with the track .We will see hope the local do run good but i doubt it.