SLM Fans and SLM Teams A Must Read for your Survival !

[RaceJunkie]

AS many Drivers and SLM teams have mentioned after Next Weeks SLM Race. BGM is Strongly Considering dropping them to every other week . This move would seem disastrous by all fans I have spoke too. The Obvious reason of this is in their view is the Perceived savings of not paying the SLM Purse. I am Going to try to make a Concerted effort here to Prove them wrong in black and white . I would like to make this a Bi-Partisan Effort crossing party lines with CD.com in order to get maximum results. We allow guest posting so this should not be a problem. I am Encouraging CONCRETE Facts from the SLM teams via Post here and Fans . This information will be Invaluable in decision making as it will be Hand Delivered to BGM at next weeks race. Once This effort is complete there will be NO excuse and the Results will be here for all to see ! Read MORE (http://dublinracefans.com/forum2/index.php?topic=1468.0)

[MikeL]

I am trying to post ONLY positive information about DMS! BUT if they follow through on this IDIOTIC notion of dropping the SLM, then the gloves are off for me!
I, for one, have tried to promote DMS in the Wilmington area as much as possible. Providing ideas such as free tickets for the races, free concession items...... but NO........................ I get free tickets to promote the "Dublin Beach Festival"
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I am only one voice! Fans/Drivers/Teams & Fans CAN be heard LOUDER than me!
My suggestion to you is this:
1. Voice your opinion at the General Admission booth when you enter.
2. Make a picket sign to display at the track.
3. Make your feelings known at the pit gate.
4. Voice your opinion on this site & every other site you can.

I have been told, BGM does not read post on ANY site. My luck they will read this one! Either way, stand up for what you want and be heard!

BUT, your obligation dpes not stop with this item! It will be your obligation to help get fans in the stands! Otherwise, this will be for nothing! I agree, there are still items to be addressed. But one item at a time. Rome nor DMS was built in a day (or a year!)

My dimes worth.
Mike Leggett

[jhofficial]

Just what Iam hearing could be wrong, but they will fun slm this week and then when they come back from the lucas weekend. POOF they will be gone from the program on a weekly bais. Just what Iam hearing, time will tell.:smiley_601:

[JAMES@CLR]

It would seem that it would be better to have SLM on a bi-weekly basis than for the track to be forced to close down due to loses. The Limited Late Model seem to have better car counts. If Dublin and Fayetteville alternate weekends with the SLM it could help both tracks.

[Kyle]

I am from Ohio but was thinkin of stoppin by Dublin for a $4,000 to win on July 6th. Dropping the Super Lates is not a good move in my opinion. I know the car counts down south are lower than what we have up here in Ohio but the SLM are what the people want to see. To get cars in there you either have too get a sanction but the sanction fees these days are outta hand. Another possibility is to run a high paying show when a traveling series is in the area. For example, the Lucas Oil Series is a Fayetteville on June 22 so Dublin should run a Thursday night special paying $4,000 on June 21. That would make sense.

[24Eckert]

have u lost ur mind no no no thts almost like freakin murder on the car it would be a good race cause the freakin thing would be so freakin dusty and slick tht nobody would race for 4000 at dublin :19mauer:

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[CHansen]

Just drop the limited off the name Limited Late Models and just call them Late Models..........(4 years ago they were the BIG SHOW).........Most of your average fans dont realize the difference in Horse Power!........

Shoot I seen one "Super Late Model" driver this weekend line up and try and practice with the Sportsman......He did not even know the difference.

FMS is making money on the nights they are not running the supers, fan count is still good and saves on the Supers purse.........

James is right..........Take it from two guys that have been there and done that. I even think after talking to John the other night he even sees the light a little, I gave him some Track Owner 101 on Crowd vs. Super Late Model Payout!

Whatever they decide I hope they get it together..........I hate to see any track close.

[jhofficial]

James is right..........Take it from two guys that have been there and done that. I even think after talking to John the other night he even sees the light a little, I gave him some Track Owner 101 on Crowd vs. Super Late Model Payout!


Charlie I just said that to get off the phone with your long winded azz. I still say a track can run a true SLM class everyweek. The only reason I would even lean toward saying anything differant is theres not as many of em around the south and the one who are will not run anywere but there on backyard and they take alot more weekends off than some of the lower class.

As I see it all three parts of this have to work together. First the fans are gonna have to be willing to pay a little more at the gate each week(Iam sure that comment will step on some toes) The slm teams are gonna have to be willing to committ to run everyweek and also support a varity of tracks when they try an have a special show. The tracks are gonna have to offer an above avg purse and also some good track conditions.

I dont think SLM's on a weekly basis has to be dead in the south, but if all three dont start working together its gonna happen and if it dont change soon, Iam packing up an moving to either east TN or ohio. Now I know for some tht would be reason enough to let the SLM's die lmao But I sure would love to see a rebound.

[davemac]

shoot....I would pay more if it would keep the SLM's running every week...but I'm not paying anything if the SLM's aren't there...and I am sure I'm not the only one thinking this

[CHansen]

"As I see it all three parts of this have to work together. First the fans are gonna have to be willing to pay a little more at the gate each week(Iam sure that comment will step on some toes) The slm teams are gonna have to be willing to committ to run everyweek and also support a varity of tracks when they try an have a special show. The tracks are gonna have to offer an above avg purse and also some good track conditions."


Well I guess you better start packing your bags..........Ohio has some cold winters...........better shoot for Tennesse.........lol:Hide: I dont see that happening. With the economy the way it is most fans cant afford to pay much more (thus SLM teams cant afford to run for much less.....that is part of the equation you left out), and no SLM team is gonna committ to run every weekend. No track wants bad conditions, so I would think the tracks would try and do thier part, the problem is this..........Right here in Eastern NC........Right now there is not a track owner out there with 2 full years of experience with working a track. It will take time, but I think all of them will get it right.....

[CHansen]

shoot....I would pay more if it would keep the SLM's running every week...but I'm not paying anything if the SLM's aren't there...and I am sure I'm not the only one thinking this


I would be willing to bet..............If you did not have a stop watch, and you put Booper Bare on the track by himself, you would not know the difference if he had an ALL ALUMINUM MOTOR, STEEL HEAD MOTOR, or maybe even a CRATE.

[jhofficial]

I would be willing to bet..............If you did not have a stop watch, and you put Booper Bare on the track by himself, you would not know the difference if he had an ALL ALUMINUM MOTOR, STEEL HEAD MOTOR, or maybe even a CRATE.

Charlie thats were you are WRONG FOR SURE I would know and their are alot of fans out there who are alot smarter than you give them credit for. Also every dirt fan aint poor.:animal46:

[Marcia Reed]

Charlie thats were you are WRONG FOR SURE I would know and their are alot of fans out there who are alot smarter than you give them credit for. Also every dirt fan aint poor.:animal46:

gotta agree with you on this one John, I would know also.....now I'm not saying limited and crates aren't fun to watch, because I do like to see them run and I have seen some good steel motor LM races......

[jhofficial]

gotta agree with you on this one John, I would know also.....now I'm not saying limited and crates aren't fun to watch, because I do like to see them run and I have seen some good steel motor LM races......

I feel the same way, just because you know the difference and prefer one over the other, doesnt mean you dont like the others.

[CHansen]

Im just telling you...........THE AVERAGE FAN!!!!!!!!!!!!...........I dont consider you, someone willing to move to another state so you can see some good car counts in a SUPER LATE MODEL race..........I also dont consider Marcia an average fan, that girl eats, drinks, and breaths racing..........

I did not say that EVERY dirt fan was poor, I said most race fans cant afford to pay much more at the gate. Take a look around at the cars in the parking lot, there is not many BMW, MERCEDES, JAG's, etc.........it is a know fact that MOST Race fans are Middle to Lower Middle Class!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We will have to agree to disagree on this subject.........I love the Supers and wish every track had 40 of them every night. But the way the supers car counts are, and the way fan counts are in NC right now, it will be very hard for a track to make money running them weekely....:DontKnow:

[EVR_99]

Frankly to me and I started a post on this in the winter. Tracks will be more successful when they start putting on shows that contain racing. This stupid a$$ qualifying crap and no heat races just blows my mind. People go to the races to see racing. Sitting thru a evening at our locals tracks is just flat out boring. Put on a real racing event and they will come. When your show is watching guys run practice laps then you shouldn't expect people to show up for that. Man even if you didn't make LM run heats make the other classes.

[davemac]

I would be willing to bet..............If you did not have a stop watch, and you put Booper Bare on the track by himself, you would not know the difference if he had an ALL ALUMINUM MOTOR, STEEL HEAD MOTOR, or maybe even a CRATE.

really? well pull a plugwire off and I'll tell you which cylinder it is......seriously,I'm pretty sure I would know horsepower when it hits a track...on another note,"the average fan" would probably not be here talking about any of this. the average fan is probably(at this very moment)outside plucking weeds from their flower bed or adjusting the height of their mailbox. I want value and when I spend my money I expect to recieve it. If SLM isn't running then I expect the gate fee to be lower and even then I won't be making the trip. SLM's draw the crowd. If they dont run every other week the box office WILL see it!

[Lucky13]

I wish I knew the answer to getting cars but I dont. Maybe we could call some of the tracks in the mid-west. My favorite track had 118 cars for 5 classes the other nite. The lowest number of cars in a class that nite was 13 in the 305 sprint cars. The rest of the classes had 20 or more, hell the hobby stocks had 30. ( www.34raceway.com ). I wish it could be like that around here, if only all the tracks would run the same rules. :confuzeld:

[dirtrat]

Just remember, dms runs on friday nights. That in itself has it in the hole. Have seen a lot of racing on friday nights over the years, but most tracks had the same rules and a driver could run every night to the week if he wanted to.Now with all the different rules, it's hard to keep up with one track the way they change rules in mid stream.
Just my two cents.

[Lucky13]

" tracks had the same rules"

Now if the fans can see this then why cant the track promoters. It really isnt that hard. Maybe everybody should run IMCA rules or something. I'm not saying thats the answer, but the racers wouldnt have to change much if they wanted to go to another track. JMO, I'm just a fan. lol

[ramsman1970]

As far as the "Super Late Model" that lined up with the sportsman at Clary's...with that many classes of V-8's, I'm sure he figured it had to be time for him to practice. He just knew that there couldn't be another class that looked like a SLM before the real Supers hit the track.

I drive roughly an hour and 15 minutes to Fayetteville when the SLM race. I have no use to go on the nights that they don't run. There is several guys that do the same as I do. I'd say I'm in the middle class, not rich by any means and the gas prices do make it pricey. This may also keep some of the racers from traveling as much as they used to....but that's my opinion.
I also think the tracks could be more fan friendly when it comes to a night at the track. I'm not talking about the price to get in because I think 15 bucks is more than fair to see 4 to 5 hours of entertainment. At Clary's this past week I paid 2.00 for a can of Pepsi. That is absolutely ridiculous. I know that have to make money but there is no reason to charge that much for one can of Pepsi. Small things like that leave a bad taste in your mouth. It makes you wonder if the track is glad you are there to support them or glad you are there so they can rip you off when they get a chance.

[Dirtchaser]

You can bring your own drinks if you don,t like the prices. It,s like at walmart or kmart there all different . As far as any track if they don,t run the late models I want go as often. I do like the support classes but my money was payed for the late model race.

[DOCCALLAHAN]

Wel I Have Been To The Gap In Tn And Several Times A Year They Throw Out A Fan App Nite And Only Charge 6bucks To Get In The Stands And Pack The House They Run Supers Every Week Along With Support Teams And Always Have A Good Crowd But They Also Run Their Rules Close With Other Tracks To Help Bring In Cars

[Lucky13]

I hate to keep talking about this track, but 34 Raceway is haveing a church nite this weekend and they are charging $5 for adults and $3 for students. Like Doc is say about the fan appreciation nites, maybe the tracks around here should try it.

[Eddy Pollard Jr]

I think a church nite would be great! I know my church would probably be interested. I know alot of drivers and crew members that are actively involved in church.

[DirtZilla13]

Charlie thats were you are WRONG FOR SURE I would know and their are alot of fans out there who are alot smarter than you give them credit for. Also every dirt fan aint poor.:animal46:

You could tell the difference with a crate, but put a SLM or LLM on the track at Clarys and you wouldn't tell that big of a difference