View Full Version : 20 laps or 30 min rule
Unregistered
05-28-2007, 01:56 PM
How many people think that the rule for crate classes is a bunch of bull? You get either 20 laps or 30 mins. Thats stupid. The crate classes have the most cars at the track every Fri night. Meaning they must pull in the most money..When I go to Georgetown I pay for 20 laps. Not the half hour bull crap. Atleast at Delmar you get what you pay for... Let me know what all the crate racers think about this rule
Racerchaser
05-28-2007, 03:47 PM
NUMBER ONE Georgetown is not the only track that has time limit / lap rule.
After a while enough is enough spin,spin spin. Now some drivers out there are really trying to race and learn, but you got some out there that couldn't drive there finger in a snow bank. You got some out there that don't know there is more then one pedel in the floor, and you got others that know how wide thier car is and what hole it will go through and what hole is to small. Some that can't see pass the front bumper and run into a crash that they had a half of a lap to avoid. Also there are some that think the next flag after the green is the checkers and its done in 1 and 2 on the first lap. Stop and look at the ones that work there way to the front after 6/7 laps, its the same ones almost every week. These drivers have learned but again some never will.
Charlie will also put a time limit on a class if he thinks they are taking to long. Mod lits for one.
but thank you for your interest in Georgetown
vincesr
05-28-2007, 11:01 PM
I think the fans got robbed Friday night. It's not like there were 5 features on the card, just three. It wasn't getting late. There was no reason for the event to get flagged. We paid for three events, we should have seen three events. I'm highly disapointed. I don't get to go there that often, but with bad decisions like this, I'm thinking of going even less.
Racerchaser
05-28-2007, 11:58 PM
Again, The Rules Are The Rules. The Drivers All Had Input Into This At The Begining Of The Season. Don't You Think They Want To Run 20 Laps . Theres About 8/10 Cars That Do, But You Have A Few Out There That Don't Have A Clue.
Is It The Car Or Is It The Driver Or A Combination Of Both, Who Knows. But It Seems To Be The Same Ones Most Of The Time.
Theres An Old Saying In Racing "slow Down And Go Faster" And Some Of Those Drivers Need To Do Just That. Don't Let Your Right Foot Over Load Your Abilities. And Again Some People Just Flat Out Don't Need A Race Car Just Because Daddy Had One Or The Neighbor Has One Doesn't Mean You Need One.
Do You Want To Look At One Lap Racing. Race One Lap Then A Caution, Race A Lap Then A Caution. And It Goes From There To Worst Most Of The Time. Most Of The Time This Will Take Care Of Its Self Because The Drivers That Are Not Getting A Chance To Get Out Front And Race Will Go To The Cars That Are Causing The Cautions And Talk With Them.
but thank you for your interest in Georgetown
shawnc
05-29-2007, 01:47 AM
I can see where Georgetown is coming from since I've been going since the re-opening. The Crate classes have way too many spin outs where guys just can't make it through a corner by themselves and it is the same guys. The last time G'town tried to just let the crates go, it took them almost 55 minutes to run 20 laps. It was just guys all by themselves spinning out and then sitting there until the caution through to avoid going a lap down.
It's a tough break but it's one that is just going to happen. The crates forced the hand of Georgetown because they were getting complaints from folks who got tired of the final two crate features taking two hours to run. Plus I have seen times when G'town has been very relaxed with the rule and allowed the guys to finish when close to the finish. But the crate mods still had 10 laps left and were getting consistent cautions.
It was a bad break for Justin Griffith earlier in the year and it was a bad break for Joesph Watson last week. But thats how it goes. Don't think Georgetown wants the race to end early but if it's going to take a time limit costing them 10 laps of racing to get some of the ones driving out of control to get control then its the breaks.
Racerchaser
05-29-2007, 02:06 AM
THANK YOU SIR, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING . SOME CAN, SOME CAN'T,
AND SOME NEVER WILL.
BUT IF YOU INCREASED IT TO SAY 45 MINS THERE WOULD 5 MORE SPINS. :check_flag: :icon_agreed:
jhofficial
05-29-2007, 12:19 PM
Just another side effect of crate racing. Was it the crate mods or crate lates that were shorted? What was the top class ran the other night?
shawnc
05-29-2007, 12:28 PM
Just another side effect of crate racing. Was it the crate mods or crate lates that were shorted? What was the top class ran the other night?
Sadly it was once again the crate modifieds that received the 30 minute shortened rule. Top class was Big Block mods.
This week it's Sprints, Super Lates, and the two crate classes.
Unregistered
05-29-2007, 06:22 PM
big blocks weren't the top class last week at georgetown. Crate Modifieds were. they had the most cars that night.
eddie55lcrew
05-29-2007, 08:43 PM
hey chaser i'm with you. some of them fellows need to get that link connected. you know the one between there foot and there brain ?
Racerchaser
05-30-2007, 12:38 AM
Where does it say the class with the most car count is the top class for that evening??????
That is about as far from the truth as it can be.......
Every other week the big blocks are the top class the other week its the super lates
but as always thanks for your interest in to Georgetown
MAMAKIN764
06-01-2007, 02:24 PM
THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE , the 30 min rule is good, but if it is the last feature, it should be waived . The gates are open, leave if you want.Obviously if a caution comes out 28 min. in to it, they probably wont get lined up in time to start again. However,they should still go untill 30 min mark / checkered under caution. I KNOW SIMPLE HUH ?
ubugme19
06-22-2007, 03:50 PM
I think a good mod to the time limit rule is what they used to do to us in kart racing. Don't shorten the race, just black flag the field send them to the pits to cool their jets and bring out the next class. Then after that class is done try it again. It was racing's version of a time out. Surprisingly it worked!
John63
06-23-2007, 06:07 PM
Another brilliant post on crates from jhofficial. Who would have known they cause cars to spin out.
Racerchaser
06-25-2007, 12:44 AM
I went to VMS Saturday night to the Lucas show, real good race. Then the support classes came out which was the Victory Lap Late Models followed by the modifieds.
If anyone thinks Georgetown has a bad deal with the 20 laps or 30 mins then go to VMS. They have a rule down there that is one spin, your done. Take it to the pits. If you spin to keep from getting in the spin you go to the back but the car that spun is done. Most tracks and series uses a two spin rule but not VMS. Tough rule.
shawnc
06-25-2007, 12:59 AM
I went to VMS Saturday night to the Lucas show, real good race. Then the support classes came out which was the Victory Lap Late Models followed by the modifieds.
If anyone thinks Georgetown has a bad deal with the 20 laps or 30 mins then go to VMS. They have a rule down there that is one spin, your done. Take it to the pits. If you spin to keep from getting in the spin you go to the back but the car that spun is done. Most tracks and series uses a two spin rule but not VMS. Tough rule.
Ouch! Is that just for the support series or for the big classes as well? Cause man, that seems incredibly harsh.
Racerchaser
06-25-2007, 02:25 AM
It covers all there classes from top to bottom. Lucas oil was the only class that didn't race that way. They have two spin rule or causing two cautions for any reason your done period.....
John63
06-25-2007, 03:40 AM
That must be new cause we raced there for years before starting with the crates. Last year it was still 2 spins and if you stopped on the track to avoid a wreck you got your spot back. Don't know about this year but the last few the late models (LLM) wrecked quite regularly.
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