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buddyislesflying11ss
03-11-2007, 09:23 PM
S.S> rules......there are some concern on the ruling of stock chassic cars with only the front upper control arms and mount aftermarket and wedge bolts and aftermarket shocks .... rear suspension must be stock... no 3 links unless it come from the factory...also no aftermarket front spindle just stock production ones only..and 1 piston caliper stock or aftermarket alumiunum o.k. any brake pads.... ........................to all driver or car only we need to clear our S.S. rules up by march 17 2007... we need a meeting on this soon...i talk to the owner of clarys about these concern.... it seems to be a miss understanding about the rule meeting and what got vote on and what was suppose to be changed... please if you are going to run in this class at clarys this year and are concern about the rule and want to have a second meeting on our rules leave your name and phone ### please on this post...we must be all thinking the same way on our class if not we could lose it to the future.............i have talk to 7 S.S. drivers about thes rules and all so far want to have a second meeting as soon as possible....just thinking about the future of our class.. buddy isles flying 11 S.S. cell # 252-532-0616:wings_ninja:

buddyislesflying11ss
03-11-2007, 09:28 PM
i am in....buddy isles sr.

GRS
03-12-2007, 06:58 AM
Chassis
Stock reinforced chassis. Can tube from center of rear end back. Full tube chassis not allowed. Rack and pinion steering allowed. All cars may use leaf springs or 3 link with coil springs in the rear. Coil spring diameter is a minimum of 5 inches. Only one shock allowed per wheel. Panhard bar allowed. No coilovers, traction control, lift bars, or other such devices allowed. Weight must be painted white, marked with the car number.
Suspension
Wedge bolts allowed. Stock lower A-frames, upper A-frame and mount may be aftermarket. Front springs must be minimum 5 inch diameter. No coilovers allowed. Rear leaf spring cars may use wedge blot on rear slider. Shocks may be moved. No floater device on rear end housing (such as bird cages). Wheel base must be 100 inch minimum. May use hiem joints on sway bar. Aftermarket tie rods allowed. Steel wheels not to exceed 10 inch wide. Wheel spacer allowed.
Track width maximum 68 inches center to center of tire.
Fuel cell, safety net, aluminum racing seat and racing harness (5 pt. Hook up) required.
Spoiler 8 inches in height and no wider than rear deck may be run. Front rudder allowed (19 inch length maximum).

These appear to be the same rules we ran last year, or have I missed something?

buddyislesflying11ss
03-12-2007, 08:33 AM
last year at the meeting with j.c at ryan in r.r. the 3 links and the quickchanged rearend and wide 5 was vote out except your car the 07 was given wide 5 and Q.C. but no 3 links and only front stock spindle....clarys didnt make the change in the rules and i ask them why and they said the guy that does the web page never got around to it.. THE PROBLEM WITH THE 3 LINK AND ANY FRONT SPINDLE IT NOT PRODUCTION. OUR S.S. CLASS IS SUPPOSE TO BE STOCK CHASSIC CARS ONLY..... I TALK TO 7 S.S. DRIVER LAST WEEK AND THEY SAID IT WAS VOTE ON AT THE DRIVER MEETING IN FEB. AND IT WAS VOTE OUT BUT IT STILL IN THE RULES FOR CLARYS......

#7 Dan Blaylock
03-12-2007, 09:21 AM
It was very clear at the meeting that it was "stock chassis" with tube being allowed from rear end out. No 3-links unless it was a stock production 3-link. From what I understood they were going to change the wording on the rules but it obviously hasn't been done. I agree it needs to be cleared up before the season starts. I know all SS drivers that were at the meeting voted on it and all present agreed on the outcome. Other Clary's SS drivers that weren't at the meeting all feel the same too.

GRS
03-12-2007, 05:15 PM
So, the goal is to eliminate all except 4-bar or leaf spring cars. The Chevel, Nova later Monte Carlo, Buick and Olds chasis would be illegal?

Three link cars (defined as rear coils, two side bars to hold rhe rear end in place and a third center link) is legal at about every track in the country in the SS division. Why wouldn't we want cars from other tracks to be able to race at Clarys?

Wide 5 is legal, per the rules. What stock chassis car or truck uses wide 5 wheels?

It really doesn't mater to me. I'm about ready to park my car anyway, but I think you will eliminate a lot of competitors.

Just my $0.02.

RaceJunkie
03-12-2007, 07:44 PM
I would go by what is posted on the website.. That was done after the meeting.. If you have questions about the rules then you should contact the track management.. here is the link to the phone #'s
http://clarysspeedway.com/index.php?option=com_contact&catid=22&Itemid=59

Red Dust
03-12-2007, 07:49 PM
does it really matter people are goin to run what they want anyway, right?

RaceJunkie
03-12-2007, 07:50 PM
I just spoke with Dwayne and he said there will be a meeting this Saturday the 17th at 12:00 NOON to clear up the SS rules. If you have any questions concerning this class you are advised to attend..


:merry_christmas:

D8Dustin
03-12-2007, 09:20 PM
It was very clear at the meeting that it was "stock chassis" with tube being allowed from rear end out. No 3-links unless it was a stock production 3-link. From what I understood they were going to change the wording on the rules but it obviously hasn't been done. I agree it needs to be cleared up before the season starts. I know all SS drivers that were at the meeting voted on it and all present agreed on the outcome. Other Clary's SS drivers that weren't at the meeting all feel the same too.


yea i think i was at the same meeting u where at dan lol

amy34
03-12-2007, 09:52 PM
I agree as well. I know last years Super Street meeting at Ryans in roanoke rapids, 3 link was out then, but never removed from the rules posted on the website. I was at the drivers meeting and I was under the impression that when we voted that our cars were to be stock chassis and no 3 link. We definately need to clear things up before the season starts. No need to start off the season not understanding the rules. Just my 2 cents.

v85
03-12-2007, 09:53 PM
D8Dustin, I have been trying to contact you about the car you have for sale. Could you please contact me or give me your contact information? My phone # is (252) 430-8006 and email is dstevensonx1@netzero.com Thanks

Tankee
03-12-2007, 11:18 PM
what about 4 link? according to his sportsman rules any car with 4 bars constitutes a 4 bar car set up. does not the stock Monte Carlos have 4 bars? Does that give an advantage to my car If I want to run it in super street instead of street stock

buddyislesflying11ss
03-13-2007, 08:28 AM
So, the goal is to eliminate all except 4-bar or leaf spring cars. The Chevel, Nova later Monte Carlo, Buick and Olds chasis would be illegal?

Three link cars (defined as rear coils, two side bars to hold rhe rear end in place and a third center link) is legal at about every track in the country in the SS division. Why wouldn't we want cars from other tracks to be able to race at Clarys?

Wide 5 is legal, per the rules. What stock chassis car or truck uses wide 5 wheels?

It really doesn't mater to me. I'm about ready to park my car anyway, but I think you will eliminate a lot of competitors.

Just my $0.02.
the goal is to put everyone on the same playing field.... i look at other tracks( clr-wcr-dublin fms) and none of these allow 3 links at all...plus other stuff also...look for your self..that why some of these car wont come to clarys b/c we allow more option.....just my 2 cent also

buddyjr11
03-13-2007, 09:22 PM
just keep it the same for all

buddyislesflying11ss
03-14-2007, 07:04 AM
hope all s.s. driver will be at the meeting... i count 12 ss car so far and i hope all of them will be there..

cprince07
03-14-2007, 09:56 AM
the goal is to put everyone on the same playing field.... i look at other tracks( clr-wcr-dublin fms) and none of these allow 3 links at all...plus other stuff also...look for your self..that why some of these car wont come to clarys b/c we allow more option.....just my 2 cent also

Buddy is right,thats why us and alot of others don't go to Clary's much.The rules for SS are so far out there on suspension and chassis that there is no need for CLR cars to go.

buddyislesflying11ss
03-15-2007, 07:06 AM
Buddy is right,thats why us and alot of others don't go to Clary's much.The rules for SS are so far out there on suspension and chassis that there is no need for CLR cars to go.
thanks cprince07 for post... hope we will get it straight out saturday and if you guys can come please do. would love to have you all come.

buddyislesflying11ss
03-16-2007, 08:05 AM
S.S. driver dont forget the rule meeting sat the 17th at the track at high noon.................

racewatcher
03-18-2007, 12:54 PM
S.S> rules......there are some concern on the ruling of stock chassic cars with only the front upper control arms and mount aftermarket and wedge bolts and aftermarket shocks .... rear suspension must be stock... no 3 links unless it come from the factory...also no aftermarket front spindle just stock production ones only..and 1 piston caliper stock or aftermarket alumiunum o.k. any brake pads.... ........................to all driver or car only we need to clear our S.S. rules up by march 17 2007... we need a meeting on this soon...i talk to the owner of clarys about these concern.... it seems to be a miss understanding about the rule meeting and what got vote on and what was suppose to be changed... please if you are going to run in this class at clarys this year and are concern about the rule and want to have a second meeting on our rules leave your name and phone ### please on this post...we must be all thinking the same way on our class if not we could lose it to the future.............i have talk to 7 S.S. drivers about thes rules and all so far want to have a second meeting as soon as possible....just thinking about the future of our class.. buddy isles flying 11 S.S. cell # 252-532-0616:wings_ninja:

What it sounded like at the meeting was UNLESS you ran a buddy isles car, you could'nt run in super street, NO Monte Carlo EVER left the factory with leaf springs, yet you guys scream about wanting to have them, a 3 link is closer to the stock configuration than leafs in a monte, if you insist upon stock suspension, than do just that, stock for make and model of car, you want leafs run a camaro, it never fails that at every meeting you get candy asses that cry and try to bend the rules to fit their agenda, race and win IF you can, cry and weep back in the nursury where you belong. Doug, you set a BAD president by changing the rules by bending to the will of a few, and then go and grandfather a car in? are you nuts? how long is this place going to be open?, I believe it's just a memory already. MY $.02

w1ck3d0n3l0st
03-18-2007, 01:28 PM
dang bending rules already that isn't good at all huh

buddyislesflying11ss
03-18-2007, 06:21 PM
What it sounded like at the meeting was UNLESS you ran a buddy isles car, you could'nt run in super street, NO Monte Carlo EVER left the factory with leaf springs, yet you guys scream about wanting to have them, a 3 link is closer to the stock configuration than leafs in a monte, if you insist upon stock suspension, than do just that, stock for make and model of car, you want leafs run a camaro, it never fails that at every meeting you get candy asses that cry and try to bend the rules to fit their agenda, race and win IF you can, cry and weep back in the nursury where you belong. Doug, you set a BAD president by changing the rules by bending to the will of a few, and then go and grandfather a car in? are you nuts? how long is this place going to be open?, I believe it's just a memory already. MY $.02
you-who ever you are-you are so funny......if you want a buddy isles race car i sell you mind.....................................but you could not drive it anyway..............................if you think my car is wrong in any way come to my shop monday between 8 am til 5 pm and look at it with the body off of it. And i dont think clarys owner grandfather any one in at the meeting. they just said no aftermarket 3 links....get yourself some new ears b/c you did not hear it right.. also if you are about my monta carlo having leaf spring you are the one crazy.......................AND THAT MY 1 DOLLAR WORTH....:Double:

w1ck3d0n3l0st
03-18-2007, 06:57 PM
i ain't trying to get stuff started BY NO MEAN but man the isles seems to always be in to trouble or startin it cause most the time when i see something with the isles on here trouble is right behind or infront of they names wtf is up with that says something

jhofficial
03-18-2007, 07:01 PM
i ain't trying to get stuff started BY NO MEAN but man the isles seems to always be in to trouble or startin it cause most the time when i see something with the isles on here trouble is right behind or infront of they names wtf is up with that says something

Maybe its cause they stand up for themselves or speak their mind in public instead of behind peoples back? Now iam not taking sides here or even care how it all turns out, iam just ready for racing to start. But I will say this, on this subject we know who buddy is and we can read what he's saying. Now for this other guy we have no idea who he is.

I dont know who is right or wrong, but gota give more creditablity and respect to someone using there own name

jhofficial
03-18-2007, 07:02 PM
i ain't trying to get stuff started BY NO MEAN but man the isles seems to always be in to trouble or startin it cause most the time when i see something with the isles on here trouble is right behind or infront of they names wtf is up with that says something

and you know dayum well you are trying to start ssomething lol:wings_no:

RaceJunkie
03-18-2007, 07:05 PM
Maybe its cause they stand up for themselves or speak their mind in public instead of behind peoples back? Now iam not taking sides here or even care how it all turns out, iam just ready for racing to start. But I will say this, on this subject we know who buddy is and we can read what he's saying. Now for this other guy we have no idea who he is.

I dont know who is right or wrong, but gota give more creditablity and respect to someone using there own name


True JH so true..

Infraction on the way...LOL

w1ck3d0n3l0st
03-18-2007, 11:44 PM
man that is f-ed up for real cause the was no way in hell i was in tryin to start something i just wanted to know why if i wanted to start something i would have just said buddy why does it always seem like u are cryin when things might look like he want win or he doesn't win that is if i was tryin to start something and in no way was i but hey what ever i ain't noone but who visit the site and stop trouble i reckon

#7 Dan Blaylock
03-19-2007, 10:14 AM
What it sounded like at the meeting was UNLESS you ran a buddy isles car, you could'nt run in super street, NO Monte Carlo EVER left the factory with leaf springs, yet you guys scream about wanting to have them, a 3 link is closer to the stock configuration than leafs in a monte, if you insist upon stock suspension, than do just that, stock for make and model of car, you want leafs run a camaro, it never fails that at every meeting you get candy asses that cry and try to bend the rules to fit their agenda, race and win IF you can, cry and weep back in the nursury where you belong. Doug, you set a BAD president by changing the rules by bending to the will of a few, and then go and grandfather a car in? are you nuts? how long is this place going to be open?, I believe it's just a memory already. MY $.02

Leaf springs on a Monte Carlo chassis? I don't know what meeting you were at on Saturday but it must not have been at Clary's Speedway. Nothing was ever said about running leaf springs on a metric chassis, especially for the benefit of Buddy Isles or anyone else there.

The only big question was running a stock production chassis vs. aftermarket tubed chassis with aftermarket 3-link set up in the SS class. There was much discussion about it and there were several proposals to satisfy everyone involved. Several votes were made and Doug and the Hardings thought it was in the best interest of the track, other classes and everyone involved to keep the SS class a stock manufactured chassis only. Any stock production Chevy, Ford or Chrysler chassis so what are you saying about the rules being made to pacify anyone? Sorry you must have misinterpreted what was being discussed but it was very clear to all the drivers that were voting.

buddyislesflying11ss
03-19-2007, 01:04 PM
i think racewatcher is the one who was trying to start something..... hiding behind a post....